and marilyn and donald sussman. those are the biggest liberal donors. the biggest donors to conser conservative groups, robert mercer. the wilkes brothers. paul singer and norman braman. a lot of big names and business founders giving to conservative and liberal causes. >> how about donald trump, is he taking money? >> he's not. he's mostly self-financing the campaign. he's not spending all that much money. this campaign up ends what we thought we knew about money and politics. donald trump proving having a billion dollars or more is enough to get you the kind of media attention. that means you don't have to spend a billion dollars or more. >> he may have to spend a little bit if the attacks start adding up. >> he'll have to. if he wants to run a general election campaign, he'll have to build a real presidential campaign with offices and staff in every city. that's expensive and a big logistic logistic challeng we'll see where he goes. he has the pocketbook or he says he does. >> thank you. >>> the quarterback who is going out a financial champion off a

sussman, thanks for all bowing here. love being with fellow women. let's just speak about what donaldrump has said now about ted cruz's wife. this follows other comments he's made about megyn kelly and other women. it seems like up unto this point his supporters have been unfazed, but mary katherine, could this be a turning point? could this be it? >> i never think that it will be a turning point of 35% of trump fans in the gop electorate. i do think there's a possibility obviously in the general this is a mistake to continue this kind of thing. i think in wisconsin in a republican primary you might get people who say this is not how we do things. we've had a rough run in politics in wisconsin but we're decent people and don't really deal with this kind of thing. >> molly, when you widen the discussion and we look at the recent poll, the cnn/orc poll that sunlen has in her story showing that donald trump has 73% unfavorables among women, could the new ones he bring compensate for that? >> every time he opens his mouth you learn why a majority of republicans oppose him and why women lo

sussman who is supporting hillary clinton. congressman weber, let me start with you. if rubio really wanted to unite conservatives or republicans around the task of defeating donald trumpsense to endorse either kasich or cruz to get some momentum? >> yes, yes, or at least campaign around the country for both of them or something. something other than vacating the field. too many people including the candidates have vacated the field on this trump issue and now we're on the eve of him maybe having a majority. i don't think he'll get there. all of a sudden they're saying oh, my god, the house is burning down. we should have done something before it got this far. yeah, i would prefer to see them support governor kasich but if he's for cruz, he should be for cruz. i think people can't just sit on the sidelines and then complain the house burned down in july. >> mary katherine, let's talk about this meeting of conservatives to come up with a way to stop trump from getting the nomination or have a third party. erick ericsson said conservatives are about ideas, not necessarily parties. that sounds like there's a ground swell among some for a third party. >> there's two things