from frank sterling obtained his freedom largely due to the vigorous efforts of his lawyer donald thompson during the war with the question remains why did he ever confess to a crime he never committed. and police officers don't beat people anymore i mean it just doesn't happen really in the course of interrogation because there's been a sad light moment no because the psychological techniques are more effective in obtaining confessions than physical abuse. in the case of frank sterling only his confession was filmed but the video speaks for itself. the two policemen had applied the reed method as well as some of their own making. here they offer in coffee and donuts to prepare frank sterling for his final declaration of guilt. but what had gone on before. i remember the. shoulders. trying to be all buddy buddy. or here for a. while . and all that. i did. you not listen to me. over an hour it's like ok i'll give you what you want well they had this weird interrogation technique in your case that i've never seen before since where they are robin is feeding rubbing his back and having him li

for frank sterling obtained his freedom largely due to the vigorous efforts of his lawyer donald thompson under the war where the question remains why did he ever confess to a crime he never committed. and beat people anymore i mean it just doesn't happen.

found that if you double, if you double every salary of every worker at mcdonald's including ceo donald thompsonalmost $9 million a year. if you double all that, including that big $9 million salary, and assuming that mcdonald's then decided to pass on every penny of that cost to the consumer, which they wouldn't have to do. but let's just assume that is the way mcdonald's would do that kind of thing. the price of a big mac, and remember you shouldn't be eating big mac's, they're not good for you, but the price of the big mac would increase to $6.46, and that is if you double every salary. now, if you left out the ceo's $9 million salary. if you left it exactly where it is and you raised all the salaries of the people who were just actually working in the restaurants by saying oh, you know, 50%, you would probably add just about 25 cents to the cost. because labor cost's don't affect mcdonald's prices very much. in most states, the minimum is the same as in most, $7.25. in albany, new york, where that minimum is 7.25, a big mac costs 3.99. in riverside, california, a big mac also costs $3.99, bu

at the same time the ceo of mcdonald's, donald thompson, in 2012, his total compensation was 13.57 million. many tweeted this back to me on the day we were having the debate. is that comparison relevant? what do you think, james? >> well i think it ought to be clear if you force mcdonald's to pay 15 bucks an hour to everyone in there, what you will see very quickly a lot more automation, a lot fewer jobs. it's not really relevant. most of all it has nothing to do with the financial crisis which is how this got bundled into the dodd-frank law. the sec is ignoring lots of critical reforms and unfortunately now pursuing this kind of umteenth look at ceo pay. when i was at the sec it was one of the earlier rounds. this is a very heavily-disclosed area. you see in our paper and others the amount people make. it is very transparent and you can make your own judgments. melissa: jonathan -- >> melissa, the guy who is the ceo of mcdonald's or wal-mart or apple, they make a lot more than a person flipping burgers or stocking the shelves because they're worth a lot more than person flipping burgers o