his version of not defending donald trump. ll be dealing with this on a daily basis now, as defending trump situation develops around the country. well, absolutely. of course you are right there was kevin mccarthy saying i'm not defending him but let me defend him. more than just him defending him on that stage, he has directed the chair of the judiciary committee jim jordan to essentially, investigate the manhattan district attorney, jordan, and other republican chairs have written to the da demanding documents, demanding testimonies. onaldmonies. trump's criminal defense lawyers except they also have the subpoena power which makes them dangerous. to hear kevin mccarthy also i have to say it was more than i could stomach talk about equal justice. as you pointed out what he is interested in is the most unequal justice this is the when the republican party leader donald trump gets a pass for any criminal activity. as you mentioned, if the indictment charging michael cohen identified individual one or otherwise known as donald tr

, then not supporting donald trump, then not supporting donald trump, then not supporting donald trumpthere may be a certain amount of rallying around donald trump here, but you also have to remember that this is a criminal case for donald trump could conceivably face jail time if convicted. this will be a distraction for his campaign. this will be a distraction for him personally, depending on how long this is drawn out. he could be mixing time on the campaign trail preparing for debates, which will start in august of this year, while also occasionally having to go back to new york and sit in his trial or confer with his lawyers and legal strategy. that can't be good for having a focused organised presidential campaign. this having a focused organised presidential campaign. as you are 'ust presidential campaign. as you are just talking _ presidential campaign. as you are just talking about _ presidential campaign. as you are just talking about what _ presidential campaign. as you are just talking about what those - just talking about what those implications might be, it strikes me tha

you're watching msnbc's continuing coverage of indictment of donald trump on thursday donald trump became the first former commander in chief in history to face a criminal indictment. that's after a grand jury in new york voted to indict the former president as part of manhattan district attorney's alvin bragg's investigation into a hush money payment made into adult film star stormy daniels back in 2016 now that indictment is currently sealed, and that means we and a whole lot of people do not know the specific charges or charge that have been levied against donald trump we do know bragg has been focused on a felony charge of falsifying business records which carries a maximum prison sentence of four years donald trump denies any wrongdoing, denies having an affair with stormy daniels, and he is presumed innocent until and unless proven guilty in a court of law that trial has not yet occurred. bragg's investigation is one of many against the ex-president. back in 2018 cohen, trump's former lawyer and fixer, was ntenced to three years in prison after pleading guilty to nine criminal count

it's really striking to take stock on the night that donald trump's indictment has broken. maya wiley josh, you're the first non-lawyer i have had a chance to get to, snok okay i'm curious what you think not on the statutory stuff, we'll get to that, but what does it mean for america that donald trump is now indicted? what does it mean if he continues to as he vows to continue to run for office while fighting these charges, and he could beat them, where do we go from here? because this is new. >> you know, your lawyer guests have spoken to the legal questions. it's a very big deal i think we have anticipated this for a long time. you know, what i really draw from this is, we all collectively have to remember there are a lot of things we don't know we don't know exactly how this is going to play out, and that's good to remember you know, last week, we had this -- everybody was set for this the nypd was putting up barricades then it didn't happen. i believe it was just yesterday that there were news reports that the grand jury basically was going to be on hiatus for a month.

this is donald trump posting o trump truth social, and thes statements are being made. these things be used against donald trump these posts untrue social? >> katie, under the rules of evidence, this is what we call the statement a party opponent i would've slap a government exhibits sticker on this pos and i wanted to sit out hi criminal trial and this is a dark moment in our nation's history i'm glad you got to break th news, katie. because what we have just seen is basically, come to d.c. o january 6th. we will be wild. two point oh and i am sorry to say that for months i have been saying on air and online, that the momen donald trump knows he's been indicted, his first post wil be coming to manhattan or come to georgia for my agreement. we'll be wild. he knows precisely what he i doing. he used similar language t incite, to entice hi supporters to come to d.c. o january 6th. and then he proceeded to incit imminent, lawless action and he has done it all ove again. but, everything donald trump does is a miscalculation katie. and here is why. he has now just given the

it could be the last indictment free day of donald trump's life. and trump supporters have made it through another day of their lives without protesting for donald trump as he requested and demanding that donald trump not be indicted. donald trump has made it through 76 years and nine months of his life. without ever being charged with a crime. most 76-year-olds, including most 76-year-olds who are career criminals, are past the point of worrying about being charged with crimes because they just don't feel like taking chances at 76. but donald trump has never learned to stop taking chances, especially legal chances. and that is why we are tracking two secretive legal processes tonight that could mean donald trump will be criminal defendant trump into different cases by the time he turns 77 on june 14th. the manhattan grand jury investigating donald trump's hush money to stephanie clifford, also known as stormy daniels, is scheduled to meet again tomorrow. and at this point anytime that grand jury meets could be the time that they vote on indictment

about donald trump and women. it was what they call a catch and kill scheme at the national enquirer. the national enquirer would catch the story by paying a woman for the exclusive rights to her story about donald trump. and, then the national enquirer would never run that story. killed a story, catch the story, then kill the story. and the woman would not be able to tell her story to any other news organization because the national enquirer would own the rights to her story and then donald trump would reimburse the national enquirer for whatever that cost national inquiry. that was the plan. that with the scheme. that was the conspiracy. it didn't work out quite that way. when stormy daniels lawyer offered the national enquirer the rights to her story about one night she spent in a very brief sexual encounter with donald trump according to herstory. the boss of the national enquirer decided to just put michael cohen in direct contact with stormy daniels lawyer at the time so that donald trump, to michael cohen,

well, the indictment will be served on donald trump's lawyers. he will then be given the option to surrender to a manhattan court, or if he doesn't, he could well be arrested. but then you've got a situation that trump remains in florida as he is at present. there has to be an extradition deal done by new york with the state of florida. so there's a lot of aspects inside here come through as of indicated that he may surrender, he way appear in that man had some court. what will then happen is that he will be fingerprinted, he will be processed, his photo will be taken, and then the formal charges will be laid. and it's probably only at that point that we will know exactly what these charges are at the moment. or we know from many media reports and from trump's lawyers themselves is that the grand jury has agreed on an indictment, the content of the statement, the nature of the charges, not known at present. and where does this leave trump that in terms of the well going for president? well, it's a major issue. there's 2 sides to look at it. donald

donald trump will be the first former u.s. ent to face criminal charges after a grand jury indicted him after money paid to stormy daniels. mr. trump is expected to appear in court in new york to face the charges next tuesday. he denies any wrongdoing saying the indictment is political persecution. we begin our coverage with this report from our north american correspondent in new york. reporter: this manhattancourthos ynot normall look like this but it is not every day if former president is charged with a crime. in fact it has never happened before. and this is a man who has brought the charges against donald trump. district attorney alvin bragg, a democrat and a prosecutor in america is highly politicized legal system. but if he was saying nothing the former president was not so reticent calling it political persecution. election interference. and his opponents radical left monsters. >> no one is above the law not even a former president. reporter: the case centers on the financial accounting for $130,000 paid to this woman

threats from donald trump. trump has used words like death and destruction and essentially promised mayhem or said there would be mayhem or could be. what do you make of the fact that this has now happened and the kind of atmosphere that this proceeding will take place under? >> well, joy, this is a day that so many have waited for the because the two words i think about with respect to what we're talking about around the indictment is number one, accountability and with respect to alvin bragg, number two is trail blazer this is a person who has seen the evident, has decided to move forward, has pressed forward in light of a number of different reasons why many people would have turned back he's doing his job he's doing what he's supposed to do as a duly-elected law enforcement officer here in manhattan. he believes a crime was committed. he put it in front of the grand jury and now you're seeing citizen trump being treated the same way anyone else would and that's what d.a. bragg is doing, and that's his job. s

ah counts against donald trump.there is an audio tape of you speaking with donald trump about these payments, so let's remind everybody about that conversation. i need to open up a company for the transfer of all of that info regarding our friend david. so i'm all over that. and i spoke to alan about it when it comes time for the financing, which will be financing have to paint your soul. no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, michael. honestly, it doesn't sound as though donald trump is giving you instructions there. it sounds like you're giving him instructions. you're saying here's how it's going to go. i have. you know, he says he's gonna be cash. you say no, no, i've got it all covered, so we're there more payments made like this. you're going into the sum and substance of conversations that i may or may not have had with the district attorney's about donald trump. you have how many conversations like this did you have donald trump one? it's the one and only recording that i ever had of donald trump conversations.

donald trump. yes and you feel like being grilled again by the d. a. should not be surprised by the reported charges. if you look at this list of witnesses, why because it lays out. what has already been reported over the years. i mean, many of this. much of this information is not specifically brand new. i mean, it's been talked about over and over again for years. let's not forget this april. it's five years since the raid on my home hotel, the my law office. so this is a long time coming. this is not been like what they did to me. but the southern district. they give me 48 hours to plead guilty. they were filing an 80 page indictment against me and my wife, right? very, very different scenario here. this is five years to hold this man accountable now i do have to acknowledge that during that time period, he still was president of the united states. yes but during that time period you did as we understand it. 22 interviews with prosecutors and did it change did help us understand what you were tel

counts against donald trump. there is an audiotape of you speaking with donald trump about these payments, so let's remind everybody about that conversation. i need to open up a company for the transfer of all of that info regarding our friend david. so i'm all over that, and i spoke to alan about it when it comes time for the financing, which will be what if i have to paying your song? no no, no, no, no, i got no, no, michael. honestly it doesn't sound as though donald trump is giving you instructions there. it sounds like you're giving him instructions. you're saying here's how it's going to go. i have. you know, he says he's going to cash you say no, no, i've got it all covered, so we're there more payments made like this. you're going into the sum and substance of conversations that i may or may not have had with the district attorney's donald trump. you have how many conversations like this did you have donald trump one? it's the one and only recording that i ever had of donald trump conversations. forget th

it’s impact on donald trump? it's interesting — impact on donald trump?sh who, in the past, joe walsh, for those who might not know who he is, former congressman, huge support of donald trump in the early years, before changing his mind and i think he's someone who is clued into that base, that supports donald trump. i think that in terms of his supporters, i don't think this changes much, i think it just reinforces everything that they believe, which is that he has been politically persecuted, this is a witch—hunt, donald trump is not just been saying that for a few weeks but throughout the presidency and i think what be interesting is what the impact will be later on if he gets the republican nomination. i think the general view is that this may boost his support with the republican base. we saw after the raid on his home at mar—a—lago last year by the fbi there was a boost among republican support, republican voters. he is the frontrunner at the moment in the republican nomination. whether this goes on to help him get new votes, new voters, which he wo

i swear to god, bob, i don't have anything on donald trump. i said do you have -- any information on the trump organization? the only thing i know, said he, is that some money was missing from the trump inaugural ball or something like that. i said is donald trump involved in that? no. does donald trump know about that? he said he didn't know about it then or now. the point is when somebody is thinking of committing suicide and you're offering them a legal way out of this, if he had any information about donald trump, that would have been the one time for a liar like michael cohen to fess up and say i know this or that. because i want to save my own hide. he didn't do that. the statement he gave us is very similar to that statement that you just read. >> sean: that i just read. >> i didn't know about that statement until i listened to you. >> sean: let's bring in kellyanne. i just really want your general thoughts. i didn't know that you had gone in until yesterday. i want your general thoughts. did you ever hear michael cohen talk about his ro

tonight's press release from donald trump is an attack on the prosecutor who donald trum clearly now expects to be th first prosecutor in american history to charge a former president with a crime trump says, the latest witch hunt is being brought on b george soros backed radica left democrat prosecutor alvin bragg. the press release is a indication that donald trump's criminal defense lawyers i manhattan and donald trump hav reason to believe that alvin bragg could indict donald trum as early as tomorrow if donald trump believes tha is possible, then of course, he's going to issue a rantin press release, aimed at alvi bragg at 6:12 pm this evening. on what could be indictment ev tonight, there is more to know about the man who might ente history tomorrow as the firs prosecutor to ever bring charges against former president. growing up in harlem, i wa repeatedly stopped and frisked by the nypd, including three times at gunpoint. i've seen loved ones arreste and have opened our home t support a close family membe post incarceration alvin bragg wrote that durin his successful campaign f

he called donald trump, amoral a serial philanderer a republican rival of donald trump's already triedhat before and guess what it didn't work. republicans a majority of them -- this time around that's th question potentially could the guilty charge sought that >> so everything that everyone -- i think i saw don bacon saying why don't we see how this play a. -- that's the one republican i've seen who's not said, one o those things that i said earlier, about a socialist soros backed, far-left radical witch hunt all that kind o stuff. that's not having on that, front and certainly haven' seen it from anybody who's won enough against trump nikki haley said, this is more about vindman's about justice, i read you what rod desantis said, mike pence, who i thin would very much like to thro donald trump under the bus will not do it >> he lived through it, he knows what actually looks like >> he was there, and i don't know it's confounding. just a reminder, donald trum does deny any wrongdoing he also denies that ther wasn't an affair with stormy daniels. despite the indictment, he i innocent u

donald trump will produce nothing but noise. so the healthy approaches to ignore just about everything he says. republican politicians will produce nothing but noise and reaction to possible pre-trump prosecutions. the road to sanity their includes and ignoring what all of they, or what all of them have to say do. not overreact into thinking that they are somehow threatening the rule of law in this country when they say something utterly childish but they are not in power to actually do. >> i may have to issue the sort of reminder from time to time, as we proceed through this year, but as of tonight i can say that the only people who should be worried about what is happening in grandeur rooms in manhattan in atlanta and washington d.c., are donald trump and anyone who has in any way, aided and abetted donald trump in the commission of crimes. if you want one of those people, then you can sit back and watch these cases unfold. the only public action in any of the investigations on donald trump today it was. in manhattan where it w

between donald trump and boris johnson is that donald - noticed between donald trump and borisjohnsonake — borisjohnson is that donald trump does not take any— borisjohnson is that donald trump does not take any responsibility . borisjohnson is that donald trumpi does not take any responsibility for any wrongdoing _ does not take any responsibility for any wrongdoing at _ does not take any responsibility for any wrongdoing at all. _ does not take any responsibility for any wrongdoing at all. and - does not take any responsibility for any wrongdoing at all. and so - does not take any responsibility for any wrongdoing at all. and so thatl any wrongdoing at all. and so that is a key— any wrongdoing at all. and so that is a key difference _ any wrongdoing at all. and so that is a key difference here. _ any wrongdoing at all. and so that is a key difference here. donald i is a key difference here. donald trump's — is a key difference here. donald trump's plan _ is a key difference here. donald trump's plan is _ is a key difference here. donald trump's plan is always - is a key difference h

donald trump should get a fair trial and people should accept the verdict. >> i was going to add that we're all starting to say who appointed judges, trump judge, biden judge, obama judge it makes the justice system seem political. david, thank you very much for joining us that does it for me today. "deadline white house" is next live every moment. glucerna. hi, i'm john and i'm from dallas, texas. my wife's name is joy. we've been married 45 years. i'm taking a two-year business course. i've been studying a lot. i've been producing and directing for over 50 years. it's a very detailed thing and the pressure's all on me. i noticed i really wasn't quite as sharp as i was. my boss told me about prevagen and i started taking it. i feel sharper. my memory's a lot better. it just works. prevagen. at stores everywhere without a prescription. ♪ ♪ [ cat purrs ] it just works. [ phone vibrates ] introducing astepro allergy. steroid-free allergy relief that starts working in 30 minutes, while other allergy sprays take hours. now with astepro fast allergy relief, [ spr

donald trump never called him an animal. donald trump has never called kim john in an animal.is suspected of murdering his brother, has definitely murdered countless officials in his government, and has starve to death, thousands and thousands of people in north korea and donald trump not only does not call him an animal don trump says he found and love with him. and those people are not animals, they're human beings, they're human beings that committed murder, but they are main human beings in the eyes of the law, and according to the clear christian teachings. donald trump's supporters, claim that they follow religion. but they don't. donald trump, called avonburg something else today, he said that this attorney alvin bragg, is the gestapo. but worse. the gestapo were adolf hitler's not secret police, who murdered people, rounded up people, sent them off to death camps to be gassed, by the millions, and of germany, the trump for the district history of manhattan is a gestapo, but to make very clear what he means, he then says, but worse. it doesn't say the district attorney

i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more tha we have. >> that was, of course, donald trump called to georgi secretary of state bra raffensperger who testifie about that called to the grand jurors they told them about another recorded telephone call, quote they heard a recording of phone call it trump place to late georgia had a speaker david rawlston, in which the president asked fellow republicans to convene a special session of the legislation to overtur democrat joe biden's narro victory in georgia one juror said that he prove to be an amazing politician, the speaker basically cut th president off, he said i wil do everything in my power that i think is appropriate he just basically took the win out of this sales, thank you that's all the president could say. david rawlston did not call special session of the legislature to overturn th election he died in november of las year, but thanks to hi recording of donald trump' phone call, the most important evidence that he could provide to that grand jury of donald trump's criminal interferenc in the election lives after him.

florida very much a red state that went very big for donald trump. even bigger for governor ron desantis in his reelection. we have gone from purple to solidly read. both of those figures in the gop, trump and the santas are very popular in florida. the governors on his book tour, in florida, viewed as his soft launch of challenge trump for the gop nomination. has not made that official yet. he is expected to. he is weighing in, he tweeted and started out by calling this a weaponization of the legal system. saying it is un-american. he said the soros backed manhattan shook attorney has consistently bent a lot to downgrade felonies and excuse criminal misconduct. now he is stretching the law to target a political opponent. our governor went on to say the state of florida would not be assisting in the extradition from mar-a-lago to new york. not that it will be necessary. that will all be worked up behind the scenes most likely. they governor coming out and making the statement. there is this weird dance in this state right now. it has been going on for

indict now an indictment has to be filed and the discussion is what t do about donald, trump in term of actually getting him throug that process i just describe are underway >> at this point trump's attorneys were notified by the district attorney's office and that's when the arrangements begin in terms of when donal trump actually come here to ou understanding or conversations about this upcoming tuesda been the point in which he would come down to lower manhattan there's a colone court building that is right next door to the distric attorney's office just lik anybody else who would have to come in for arraignment of course secret services a interesting component and they said they will remain with donald trump every step of the way the intention is to keep him out of the public eye as much as possible for understandable securit purposes will donald trump hav to be handcuffed typically tha is the case here but all o this is plano because this i unprecedented. >> and sometimes, somebody who's arrested who surrendered themselves spends all night in jail that's not likely t happen will

about donald trump, and we're talking about donald trump all the time because donald trump is always right now, it's all about these indictments. i find it notable that when you ask gop senators, most of them, about donald trump, and this indictment, their response is pretty tepid. i want to play a couple of them. >> what's your level of concern that the former president might get indicted? >> i don't know anything about it other than what you guys report. >> no one should be singled out for special treatment or special mistreatment. >> you've also got a lot of punch bowl from this morning. i would hope they would stick to the agenda they ran on when they got elected to the majority senator cornyn said, the house is going to do what the house is going to do. you have to fall short of getting involved in the legal process. senator thom tillis warning about getting into the substance of the claims against donald trump, this is about the house trying to go after alvin bragg. explain it all to me. >> it's simple. i wouldn't say this, but some might say the political iq on the senate side

that says donald trump, right? and. >> yes, and it's the actual banks. >> made out to who >> made out to mr. koen. >> there's a fact that's not in dispute. yes, he paid michael cohen he was invoiced by cohen for legal fees. >> i want to button up on mr. pomeranz if you are correct, what you say to the d.a. defense an ever view that he no longer works there, they got rid of him -- >> he resigned. >> he did. what do you say of your view, whatever you think of him, even if you're right he made chargeable mistakes, that doesn't vieduate and destroy this case against your client. >> i would say according to alvin bragg it caused a problem, because alvin bragg said this compromises their grand jury investigation. that was the d.a. saying that regardless of that -- regardless of that, just foecus on these facts these facts do not make up a crime. they don't they just don't. there is nothing criminal about what happened in the stormy daniels payments >> you make your point there i'm not going to ask you to answer for every

70 million people voted for donald trump the last time. think about that. 's listen to them. and let's give them hope, and the candidate that can beat trump in the primary if it can be done is going to be somebody who can give people hope that tomorrow can be a better day. and that person, i don't think has emerged yet. >> you're not seeing that at least in the current choices. super interesting. governor john kasich, we announced on "the beat" you're now an msnbc analyst. welcome to the family. thank you for making your first appearance on "the beat," sir. >> i was glad to do it. been waiting to do it, and we got it done. >> we got it done. we can build from here. thank you, governor. i'll see you again. appreciate it. >> here this hour ends with the governor discussing the circus. saying something i think we can all keep in mind, which is let's be sober and follow the evidence. at least on those trump cases. we also spoke about the future of the republican party and his call for all of us to keep an open mind. i'll tell you what else we learned, listening

of all the things that donald trump is alleged to have done, leading up to an insurrection, not payingy for his entire lifetime, the things allen weisselberg went to prison for. he got the real accountable for what trump was doing at trump inc. you can do all of it, the things he has allegedly done. it's somewhat ironic the thing that appears the most sort of ever present as a threat to his freedom, to his whatever, is this, right, is this stormy daniels payment. but we are where we are. so let's just walk through it. this in some ways seems like the easiest out of all those cases. it's not making fake electors. it's paying off somebody for a sexual matter. but how complicated actually would it be if he were to be indicted, to prosecute a case like this? >> very complicated. you know, charles mentioned a moment ago that of course he's entitled to a fair trial. it's all constitutional protections of any defendant. one question is, is manhattan a proper venue. can he get a fair trial there? what about pretrial publicity? how are you going to screen a jury like that? what sort of question

the wife's donald trump. but i think you're also going to reinforce every democrat who doesn't like him every independent who doesn't like him, and that 80 percent of republicans who would really prefer someone else. all this is going to do is strengthen the result for all of that. now, you mentioned a democrats that, i mean, how are they going to handle this going forward because it's a serious legal situation, but inevitably, is going to be something of a circus, isn't it? absolutely, it will be a circus. i wrote a piece in the washington times about a week ago that talked about that. and i said, if you're a democrat, this is your fantasy, you would like to be running against the circus. that is donald trump. and donald trump probably won't be the candidate in 2024. but if you arrest him, if you indict him and if you put him on trial for 6 months or 8 months, donald trump is the story. donald trump, whether the party wants it or not, he will be the face of the republican party for months to come. and while

we also have an answer from donald trump's lawyers about whether he, donald trump, will accept his own invitation from da alvin bragg to also sit for the grand jury. >> we have no plans on participating in that proceeding it's a decision that needs to be made still, no deadline has been set so we'll wait and see. >> whether he speaks or not is almost secondary right now, the fact he got the invitation at all signals to some lawyers a decision on charges, a decision on charges, is likely coming so if he is charged, what happens next not just logistically like what are the charges and does he turn himself in but politically. do charges help him or hurt him with gop voters? trump will be in iowa today, are the crowds still showing up to see him? we have a reporter on the ground, and donald trump's opponents are watching closely as well. including former vice president mike pence who told a private dinner over the weekend that donald trump put his life in danger we'll tell you what else mike pence said and with whether he may say the same publicly. joining me is vaughn hillyard and ron all

donald j. trumpy payment to stormy daniels ahead of the 2016 presidential election as you heard from the ex-president's niece, well, it's a moment that fees surreal to be everybody watching there is likely no one more shocked than donald trump because for half a century donald trump has been getting away with skirting the law "the washington post" reflects on his 50-year playbook. quote, already trump statements about the daniels case have followed a pattern as far back as '73 when federal prosecutors accused trump and his father fred, a prominent new york city apartment developer of turning away black people who wanted to rent from them in that case trump first denied the allegation then he said he didn't know his actions were legal and then through a lawyer accused of government of conducting a bogus gestapo-like investigation and said he never had any sexual relationship with daniels or that as he told friends privately, daniels was not his type then he said he didn't know daniels had been paid $1

in terms of his supporters, donald trump supporters, donald trump supporters are already very loyal to him. i don't think this necessarily changes anything for them. i think the big question is, does it bring him any new voters. as far as the republican nomination for the republican nomination for the presidency goes, that is what will be interesting to see, after the fbi raid on his mar—a—lago home last year, there was a boost among republicans and republican voters, so we will see what happens there. as far as the presidency itself goes, it's almost hard to predict that. i think in terms of if you could win the race, or get the nomination, right now, generally the view is it could be used is support amongst a lot of his voters already, and really rile up his base. which he's been doing, since we got news this indictment was coming. news this indictment was cominu. ., ., coming. nomia iqbal in washington _ coming. nomia iqbal in washington dc- coming. nomia iqbal in washington dc for- coming. nomia iqbal in washington dc for us, | coming. nomia iqbal in - washington dc for us, keeping

so today is the beginning of accountability in criminal court for donald trump i do not think that thiss th only courtroom where trump wil face accountability, and i certainly is correct that ne york is set up in terms of security to provide a fair and save trial i think that da brags concer now is making sure that he get that conviction. remember, paying hush money is not a crime in new york, it is a crime to file business records there and it's not a brag who decided that should b a crime, but the people of new york did of course, to make that felony, prosecutors have t prove that - to conceal another crime tha other crime could be a violation of election law, lik and legal campaign contribution lawrence, that is an unteste legal theory for that crime an it does create some risk throughout the race -- a jury might think it is too complicated the. reality is that alvin bragg is charged 120 people with filing false business records to cove up other crimes. >> harry lippman, this looks like a case where it is very hard to see the route to a not guilty without the defendant taking the wit

a defended in cases in which donald trump could lose hundreds of billions of dollars if donald trump does lose these cases. he will no doubt spend the rest of his life trying to appeal the judgments in these cases, which means he would remain defendant trump for the rest of his life. donald trump is now facing the most threatening lawsuits he has ever faced in his life. a group of lawsuits filed by capitol police officers and members of congress against donald trump for inciting the attack on the capital which threaten the lives and injured many of those police officers and threatened the lives of members of congress. donald trump has claimed that he cannot be sued in these cases and has complete immunity because on january six everything he did, everything he said, was said and done within his duties as president in united states, including delivering a speech to a trump mob who he knew was armed and who he told to go to the capital and, quote, fight like hell. the justice department disagrees with donald trump's defense. if justice department agreed the don't trump was acting within

our sacred system of justice against donald trump. the governor florida rhonda santos, who may well be the person running against trump for the republican nomination. also saying that it's a weaponized ation of the legal system. interestingly, governor de santos also saying that he would not cooperate in any potential extradition off donald trump from florida to facie indictment in manhattan. this an important issue should trumpet decide not to voluntary surrender himself to that manhattan court for the indictment. on the other hand, we've heard from adam shift or one of the ad in prefer democratic lawmakers saying that this just proves set nation of laws must hold even the rich and powerful accountable, indicating he believes, said tramps, wrongdoings have finally caught up with him from the chair of the, of the conservative, the house republican conference, the chair of that particular body, at least definition, also repeating the phrase set. this is unprecedented election interference, the action by the district attorney and black b

coming up, the response so far for donald trump's call to action. ne hole at the ex president's first impeachment on why a trump indictment is important for the rule of law in america, next. se, allergies don't have to be scary. spray flonase sensimist daily for non-drowsy, long lasting relief in a scent-free, gentle mist. (psst psst) flonase. all good. >> after donald trump urged users on his twitter like account to -- claiming he would be arrested on tuesday, the nypd responded, setting up barriers preparing for the possibility of a large crowd. nbc news senior reporter ben collins has been tracking the response of trump into the dark corners of the internet. he joins me live tonight. ben, what have you found? >> so, i was at that protest that was supposed to happen, but on by the new york young republicans club. i would say, maybe 5 to 1, 10 to 1 reporters to actual people there. as you can see, it was kind of ridiculous. but there were some holdovers from the day before, there was a dry point story hour protest from the day before, put on by the

trump playbook. just ask michael cohen. >> it's a typical donald j trump play out of the playbook. figure out how you're going to muddy the water as best as you possibly can, denigrate the person, disparage them, you do the same thing to cassidy hutchison, to anyone and everyone that is for the truth. muddying the waters might be the thing that donald trump does best. >> he didn't back doing during his presidency when he and then attorney general bill barr's spin the results of the mueller report before it became public. and when he released the incomplete transcript from the so-called perfect phone call, where he tried to pressure ukrainian president zelenskyy into digging up dirt on the bidens ahead of the 2020 election, and he did it again just a few months ago when he was the first person to break the story that the fbi searched his florida retirement home looking for those classified documents he mishandled. so what we saw this weekend was trump once again trying to frame the narrative before it could unfold. the ex president was setting the tone and the outcome on his terms.

is he loyal to donald trump's supporters? away interest trump? he's walking this fine line, but i'm not sure how well that serves him ultimately in the long run politically. do you have to pick a side at some point? >> yes. >> he's trying to appease everyone, and i'm not sure how long that's going to work. i think about him really twisting himself into a pretzel, trying not to be too critical of donald trump, saying that line that sll says he'ss . >> and thimike pence will have in the run-up to january 6th. he was not exactly calling out conspiracy theories about election fraud. he was not telling donald trump to knock it off, and since then he has not been outspoken about election deniers, he campaigned for some of them in the midterms. which side is he on? as you see desantis and trump try to shrug it out, there's a middle road that pence can take. but he's got to be careful in how he moves forward here. >> look, i introduced mike pence the donald trump. >> so, this is your fault? >> he didn't know donald trump, had never me

washington post reporter asked donald trump for his reactio to mike pence's comments today donald trump said, had he sent the votes back to th legislatures, they would not have had a problem with januar six. so in many ways you can blam him for january six. had he sent them back to pennsylvania, georgia, arizona the states, i believe that number one, you would have had a different outcome. but i also believe you would not have had january six as we call it. the trump mob was attacking th capitol before, before, th first challenge was made to th electoral college votes coun on january 6th donald trump not unreasonabl sees mike pence's change o tone about him as simply a presidential campaign choice the washington post quotes donald trump, saying, i gues he figured being nice was no working. but you, know he is out ther campaigning and he is trying very hard, and he is a nice. man i've known him, i had very good relationship until the end. the end of that relationship for donald trump came on the phone on january six, when mik pence told donald trump once again that he was not empowere by

so what will the upshot be politically of donald trump's indictment? oining me now is sarah mathews, former trump deputy press secretary. we also have cnn senior political commentators david axelrod and scott jennings. friends. thanks so much for being here, sarah, i'll start with you because you worked for president trump. um we all know his talent for being able to you know, play the victim card when he thinks it's advantageous. how do you think that this will turn out politically for him? so i definitely think in the short term, you're going to see him turn this into a spect spectacle . we've already seen him start fundraising off of it, and i have no doubt that he will continue to do that. and uh, urged his allies to go out there and beyond air criticizing this case, but that's the thing is that we don't know the merits of this case. we need to wait and see what the charges are that are being brought against him what the evidence is, so i think it's a little premature to see a lot of republicans. is out there criticizing it, but i do think in the sh

his respond to the indictment of donald trump. he wrote this. quote. sident trump fired me and freed me and now he's getting f-ed like me. it is time for republicans and democrats to stand up and defend our constitution against third world politics." that speaks for the majority of the country. rod blagojevich, the governor is joining us now. expand on that given your own experience of this prosecution. >> well, i had the misfortune being arrested at 6:00 in the morning. my little girls were asleep and it was a major event. i was allegedly trying to sell president-elect obama. winston churchill says the lie can travel halfway around the world. it is more than deja vu all over. i don't like what they did to me and i fought back. they gave me 14-year sentence and put me in a high-security cell where no one had been. i was in there with people who committed murder. it was a corrupt prosecution, they tried me twice. they could not convict me and they fake charged me on the first trial. they did it to the democrat governor at the aaa level. not only it is fr

' niece mary trump, who will consider for, us how her uncle donald is feeling on indictmen night mary trump will join u next everyone's gonna need more tide. it's a mess out there. that's why there's 85% more tide in every power pod. see? ah. with a majority of my patience with sensitivity, i see irritated gums and weak enamel. sensodyne sensitivity gum & enamel relieves sensitivity, helps restore gum health, and rehardens enamel. i'm a big advocate of recommending things that i know work. my most important kitchen tool? my brain. so i choose neuriva plus. unlike some others, neuriva plus is a multitasker supporting 6 key indicators of brain health. to help keep me sharp. neuriva: think bigger. >> tech: when you have auto glass damage, trust safelite. my customer really relies on his car's advanced safety system. [alarm] >> instructor: veer right. [ringing] >> instructor: and slow down. >> tech: so when he got a cracked windshield, he turned to safelite. we're the experts at replacing glass and recalibrating your vehicle's camera, so automatic emergency braking and lane departure

if they were to use evan corcoran as a witness against his former client, donald trump, and there was compelling evidence that after trump had been subpoenaed to turn over all of the classified documents, instead of complying with that subpoena, he told his lawyer to lie for him and represent to the federal government, you've got it all. i have nothing left. of course, we know that's untrue. because of subsequent fbi search found classified documents in donald trump's desk drawers. if evan corcoran is the witness against donald trump to prove that up, it's obstruction of justice, it's a false statement for the federal government. and like i say, that is illegal layup. >> now glenn, there's also new reporting tonight from politico the trump's team -- some of those documents and that documents case by midnight tonight, with jack smith and team having to respond by 6 am. this, obviously, is really fast. can you explain what is going on here? >> yeah, it's really fast indeed. there is a three judge appellate panel. and right now donald trump is trying to get them to put a hold on chief ju

we begin with breaking news — donald trump has become the first us president in history to be chargedime. he'll be charged in new york over alleged hush money given to porn starjust before the 2016 presidential election. mr trump, who's running again for president, has repeated he's innocent, and called the indictment �*political persecution and election interference�*. his son eric said it was the opportunistic targeting of a political opponent in a campaign year. the bbc�*s nada tawfik�*s outside the court in new york. we can speak to her. great to get you on the programme. in the first instance, your reaction to what is happening today. reaction to what is happening toda . . , i reaction to what is happening today._ i believe l today. certainly... i believe we are having... _ today. certainly... i believe we are having... we - today. certainly... i believe we are having... we are - today. certainly... i believe- we are having... we are having some difficulty reaching out to my colleague who is standing outside the court as we understand it. just to remind you of what has been happe

was fred trump's accountant donald inherited him and mad him a cfo. he is the crypt keeper of al the financial dealings of th trump organization, going back to the 1970s so, depending on how chronologically deep alvin bragg wanted to go and how man different fact patterns an streams of evidence he wants t bring in this case, alle weisselberg's a rich wealth to and allen weisselberg have every reason to cooperate at this point because he is a older man and i do not think h wants to spend any more time i prison then he has to. >> you could have said six months ago that he is an older man, he is in the last cor tile of his life, he i certainly not going to go to rikers island for anyone, bu he is there right now tonight. >> right, but he is there unde the threat of his sentence being extended if the da does not tell th court that he does not fully cooperate. he's not been sitting there fo the jailed open, he has been sitting there waiting to see i the courts are going to reduce his sentence for being a goo participant in thi investigation. and i think tha

enforcement ar preparing for a possible indictment as early as nex week if there is an indictment, donald trump would be the firs former president in u.s. history to face criminal charges. and according to his attorney, trump intends to surrender t authorities if he is indicted. we have full team coverage starting with my colleague msnbc anchor katie phang and katie, this is incredibl news to wake up to you you are the lawyer here. talk about what this means in terms of what we can ge essentially see from the mante eight ex week? >> thanks, jonathan. i think what's important t consider is that this is a truth social posed by donald trump. yes, it is breaking news because it is the former president of the united states but we haven't had a situation on our history with ou president of the united states is been indicted but he has indicated that he anticipates that he will b arrested on tuesday of nex week what's important, jonathan about that post is that we kno that donald trump likes to use truth socialism mouthpiece o sorts. he likes to use it as a no very pleasant playground to be able to pu