where do things stand right now as we know with donald trump juniorier meeting with this committee and about this meeting, we know that robert mueller is also now asking about this meeting. does this signal some change in the direction of the investigation? >> i think this he meeting long been of interest to congressional investigators and certainly the specials counsel, it gets to the heart of the question of whether or not atrium campaign members may have possibly tried to coordinate with russia over this election meddling interference campaign. when donald trump accepted this meeting, in june of 2016 at trump tower with a woman who was portrayed to be a russian government lawyer offering dirt on hillary clinton, he sold senate investigators his intention was to assess clinton's fit ness for office. but the other thing we said in this testimony that i think stood out to people is he -- he said that he always intended to seek legal counsel if he decided to use any of that information. now, what people are pointing to about this is that it's just that trump junior that to accept damagi