my guest today is donald verrilli, us solicitor general under barack obama.s the constitution ensure that the white house is always subject to, not above, the law? donald verrilli, welcome to hardtalk. thank you, stephen, it's good to be here. let's start with a personal perspective. having served five years as obama's solicitor general, how painful is it for you to watch donald trump pledging to undo so much of the legislative executive legacy left behind by barack obama, and of course a legacy that you defended? well, had you asked me that question two months ago i probably would have said extremely. but as time has passed, i think the resilience of the achievements of the obama administration, i think, is starting to show itself. and so i am more optimistic now that it's going to be a lot more difficult than it might have seemed at first blush for president trump and his administration to undo the progress that was made under president obama. i'm thinking in particular of health care but other things as well. well, we'll go in detail through some of the th