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in donbas. >> and they're. >> not accessible. >> by the. >> ukrainian government. so there are still. >> minerals and the other. >> parts of ukraine, titanium and. >> other things. >> but the. >> majority of the wealth is. >> under russian. >> occupation right now. >> does zelenskyy have leverage? and not. much really. except for the fact that the ukrainian. military has said it won't accept these. >> kinds of conditions. at least it said that informally. >> that's what. >> i'm hearing from people. they don't want to accept the conditions that. >> secretary hegseth and. >> president trump. are laying out there. >> they want to continue. >> to fight. they want their land back. >> they don't want to. >> give up sovereignty. and when you try to get to the root causes of this, um, for mr. putin, this means the fact that ukraine is actually a separate country, that's an offense to mr. putin. he doesn't believe that he's staked his whole his whole standing on the fact that ukraine is part of russia and he doesn't accept the fact that nato has expanded beyond the 1997 agr

. >> i will assume crimea will probably be lost and the donbas region will somewhat be lost in around the ports. i don't think zelenskyy wants to talk about it but the truth is the president made clear he wants it over and i am sure the left will criticize trump for even giving any praise to a dictator but keep in mind reagan also befriended mikhail gorbachev when he brought down the wall and brought an end to the ussr. and there's a pattern with ronald reagan and trump and he knows where he's trying to go and negotiate an end to the bloodshed. with the end of the agreement is between me and donald trump and zelenskyy and prudent. >> we appreciate your times for staying up late. and the former white house chief of staff mike meadows is now coming on with us as well as kellyanne conway and intelligence officer rebecca com for who knows russian pretty well we start with the rebecca. what does a vladimir putin think? >> vladimir putin would like to ended the war but on his terms which are unacceptable to washington and president trump's team. and he maintained a wartime footing several y

that means that any peace deal with russia will likely include russia keeping crimea and the donbas aboutne, which of course, russian forces have occupied for about two years now. he also mentioned that, of course, the role of china and that the us forces must be spending, must be focused more on china. also, this one was very interesting. the united states will no longer tolerate an imbalanced encourages dependency, telling europe and nato they must spend more on their defense. two-thirds of nato allies spend on defense of the nation. the defense secretary before pete hegseth said they already do that. and russian military is spending more than entire content of europe on their defense. europe needs to step up. he said this must be a war-fighting organization, not a diplomatic club. he said that on twitter, stronger, more lethal force. people watching right now, if you came into nato headquarters, you would not know this was strongest alliance in the world, there are stores and starbucks, it does not feel at nato headquarters like more lethal, which is what hegseth wants, guys. >> emily:

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withdrew from donbas and crimea.pushes these talking points that almost seem like they are coming from the kremlin. that's why you are seeing lawmakers on both sides of the aisle raising their concerns and voicing their concerns to allies as well. >> bret: brit, talking to the interior secretary also the chairperson of this energy dominance council saying how they are going to -- the trump administration are going to open up things that have not been open up when it comes to energy. take a listen. >> part of what we can do is what president trump is doing. he has met with more foreign heads of state in a month than some presidents meet with in a year. secretary wright and i had an opportunity to be front and center in the meetings with both the prime minister of india and the prime minister of japan. both of those prime ministers expressed their dismay. hey, we want to buy more energy from america. but, the biden administration had shut down lng exports inexplicably. hurting america. helping our adversaries. >> what

see some sort of trade where he gives russia back the territory they went into in exchange for the donbasthat they shape you see this potentially taking and is crimea done and gone from ukraine as far as these negotiations are concerned? >> i don't really know quite frankly. folks need to present their best offers to the president. the president of the united states will make that decision with people like national security advisors, like our secretary of state, like steve what cough and they will weigh the options in a view from the american perspective so i think it's nice if ukraine has some thoughts i'm sure putin has some thoughts. let's try to reconcile it together and if the president can provide that extra thing to get things done then that's what he will do. >> martha: let me ask you about saturday because there's been a deadline put down for hamas to release the rest of the hostages. i saturday or in the president's words all will break loose. you obviously are intimately involved in hostage negotiations and releases, tell us what you can about this plan. >> i just spoke with th

it's really hard for me to say, to ask kids in kalispell, for instance, to go to war over the donbas where they don't know where it is. and entering in nato, ukraine would have to go through significant political reform to include elections, which is democratic, but they're an oligarchy, and there are many power struggles within ukraine. it is not a transparent government. it is not. it is not, you know, a pro-western. it is it is corrupt government. so they need to would have to do some some deep reformations and reform. but but also the korean peninsula, you know, you look at the history of the korean peninsula. it is russia's only warm water port. is there access to the black sea? so the reason why russia is there is they feel that they look at that as as absolutely essential for their their security interests of having access to the mediterranean and the black sea. so there are some problems to go through. but ukraine is not in a, in a, in a terrific position for demands without u.s. help. and quite frankly, european help has been little to none. without the u.s., russia would be

remember, putin is going to get putin's asked for the donbas, crimea and for no nato. the united states has asked for ukraine's minerals and special minerals. and what does ukraine get? they get to give up their sovereignty and independence. that's not how this goes. and they never even mentioned what ukraine would get when they said what the russians would get. but then the deeper comparison is we have always adopted as a part of our foreign policy expressed through nato's through other efforts to the united nations out of many. one, it's a domestic position, but it is actually animated our foreign policy. we're now adopting president putin and president xi's policy, which is might equals right. and spheres of influence. and that's how not only what we're seeing in ukraine matters. what we're saying in europe matters. but it is exactly the approach we're adopting with greenland. we're adopting calling canada the 51st state, making fun of that, and then also our approach to how we're going to deal with panama. it is a reversal of america's historic view and strategic v

in 2014, when putin rolled in to georgia and moldova and then took crimea and then moved into the donbas, the lack of deterrence back then, in no small part led to this additional aggression three years ago. and if we fail to deter and to stop putin here, i think there's no end to how much of the former soviet empire he will intend to take back. >> senator chris, thank you so much for joining us. i know it was loud there. i appreciate you taking the time and still had the nation's top law enforcement position will be run by a staunch donald trump loyalist. senator sheldon whitehouse is here with a warning for republicans on their votes for kash patel. plus, how elon musk is now extending his reach into state politics and how the trump justice department is chilling the free speech of elected democrats. one of those democrats, congressman robert garcia, joins me next. >> are you certain he'll fit? >> sure. >> are you for imprint? certain. certainty matters when you need certain. promo gear. you can be certain for imprints. got it. quality apparel. got it. >> drinkware got it. >> bags. >>

. >> not to mention all of the russian led operatives that were trying to seize the donbas region of ukraine during the trump administration. nick. >> yeah. look, i mean, that was all part of the hot war that kind of picked in from 2017. and there were continued attempts to try and move forward. these were proxies backed by the russian military, a hot war in the defense of trump. he did contribute lethal aid towards the ukrainians during that period of time. the conflict seemed to slow, but ultimately to suggest that somehow there would be a way to convince vladimir putin to not launch that invasion. the biden administration tried that relentlessly through exposing intelligence, sending people to the kremlin to tell him not to do it. he went ahead regardless, misinformed that he was somehow win in a couple of days or a couple of weeks. and here we are now, entering into the fourth year. so many miscalculations, but perhaps one now potentially, that ukraine can be left dangling like this and still hold the russians back. >> all right. nick paton walsh in kyiv. jeff zeleny at the white

themselves some leverage in any negotiation so they could trade that for some of the areas of the donbas that the russians now occupy. um, whether they can strike that deal is a big, big question. >> zelenskyy is now saying that ukraine is open to giving the u.s. access to its rare earth minerals. if they get security guarantees in return. we know that that that trump has been asking for this. this comes, of course, just days after the ukrainian president did not let one of his ministers sign a draft of an agreement that would open up those mineral deposits in return for future military aid. how big of a piece is this, in your view? >> well, it's a big piece to president trump. you know what ties together? greenland and the ukraine? uh, debate here is, uh, this focus that the president has on mining rare earth minerals, minerals that would be critical to future american technologies, battery technologies included, um, mr. zelenskyy, it's interesting. he's not holding out for money here. he's holding out for security. he's saying, look, the one thing the united states can provide me that

provinces of donbas, the so-called land bridge that. connects crimea. putin will say. >> to the. >> russian people, hey. >> i locked. >> it in. >> i made it happen. >> except if you. >> ask me, who would win the war in this. >> scenario i just outlined. >> i think putin has a hard time saying he wins. he ends up with 20% of. >> ukraine. >> most of. >> which he held. >> on to from 2014. >> he has got. >> no control over the other 80%. last time i. >> checked, when. >> you get a 20% on a test, that's an f. and here's the real punchline and it is a punch. a million young russian men gone. >> out of a. >> pre-war population of 75. >> million. >> young russian men. they've lost 300,000 dead, 400,000 wounded, 500,000 have left the country. and when that babushka goes to the grave of ivan to put some dried flowers on it, i don't think she's feeling really. >> good. >> about the 20% putin got on the test. that's how i think this comes out. >> final quick question. do you think that the assessment that you've just offered pretty compelling will be accepted by pr

if you give putin the donbas, is he going to stop there or is he going to want the rest of ukraine? >> well, it. >> seems to. >> me, christina, from that reporting that president trump and even his national security team is not listening to the intelligence that's coming in, because i think that intelligence is entirely right. look, we. >> are. >> witnessing firsthand the betrayal of ukraine, an ally who the u.s. has very ably supported, and also the rehabilitation of russia, which don't forget, you know, many of us called them a terrorist state. and why is that? because they raped and pillaged and murdered through ukraine. they conducted assassination and sabotage campaigns through europe. remember, it's even a country that paid off the taliban to kill our soldiers. and the notion that we're all of a sudden going through this kind of reset, something that has been done many times before and has failed, and getting nothing in return, i think, is quite stunning. you know, the u.s. is now, at best a neutral player on ukraine, and that's something that i think is very hard, at least fo

i mean, when you're in the donbas region, i remember going to donetsk areas.ominantly russian speakers there in the centre south of kyiv, predominantly ukrainian speakers in the west, up by lviv, polish speakers. the word ukraine in russian means the border. ukraine is actually a vast. it was the breadbasket of europe. yeah. now the problem is i think crimea has gone. don't forget putin occupied crimea. yeah, we did nothing about it. so he then got ennobled. to move forward, we have to draw the line somewhere. i think in the reality, zelenskyy would be quite happy to give up and walk away if that's the price of peace, but not without surrendering, you know, not with surrendering, you know, not with surrendering so much of ukrainian territory. >> we can't be calling him a dictator. there's only one dictator, which is putin, and he's not a dictator. >> but can we agree on that? >> but can we agree on that? >> okay, we'll shake on. >> okay, we'll shake on. >> that. >> that. >> agreed on that. we'll agree on that. but we all want peace. and trump is there trying t

donbas will probably be lost to some degree. of course, around the port. i don't think zelensky wants to talk about this, sean, but the truth is, the president has made it very clear he wants the war to end. and i'm sure the left is going to criticize president trump for even giving any type of praise to a dictator called putin. but keep in mind, reagan also befriended gorbachev, and he brought down the wall and brought the brought the end to the ussr. and so you can see that there is a pattern here with a great leader in ronald reagan and a great leader in donald trump, that he knows where he's trying to go, and he's trying to negotiate an end to the bloodshed. what that will look like at the end of the agreement that will be between the greatest dealmaker we have ever seen in our lifetime, donald trump, zelensky and putin. >> yeah. senator, we appreciate your time tonight. thank you for staying up late with us. we really we're really grateful. all right. here with reaction to tonight's historic events, former white house chief of staff mark meadows, fox

. >> of the donbas, eastern part of ukraine, everything. >> that. >> um, that president putin wants is being offered to him even before the negotiations begin. although you could you could say that the negotiations have already begun. and they are between russia and the united states. and then ukraine. so this is a real, um, i'd say, quite surprising development and happening very fast. i mean, look at everything that vladimir putin got out of this news conference. he got, um, let's get russia back in the g-7. he got, i believe, putin when he says, uh, that he wants peace. he got, uh, i think also this idea that president trump has, which is, you know, it's called the great man theory, that it's it's not organizations, it's not the world organizations. it's great men. putin, trump, xi who decide everything. and that's exactly what we got. we also got i mean, you go down the list, we also got no nato for russia. in fact, president putin said russia should have some type. i don't see why any country like russia, um, should could allow ukraine to become part of nato. russia doesn't have a

i guess the question is how much of donbas might it keep? >> that is the question. when zelenskyy was talking about trading properties earlier this week and possibly doing some kind of part of the disputed zones, he was talking about the cursed, which is actually in russia that was recaptured by the ukrainians. he was not talking about crimea or donetsk. i think you are going to have this real back and forth about what the ukrainians are willing to do when they get to that negotiating table and that they don't feel on the back end of a putin schmoozing president trump to get more of that territory. >> sandra: i suppose also we will hear from the white house, able to take a victory lap on another american being released after marc fogel was released by russia yesterday. i mean, to john's point, the pace at which this white house is moving, bret, it is just absolutely incredible, and who knows what else we will learn when she steps up to the microphone. >> and then you add to that elon musk in the oval office yesterday and kind of detailing what they are starting to f

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