-a donda era donda rather saying that that was not a proper technique it was in his words in no way shape or form what they train police to do that the officers were required to give medical aid as soon as george floyd was in distress and he did not do that and then at the end of the day you had katie blackwell the officer who trained derek chauvelin in the techniques of restraining somebody and she said i don't know what kind of improvise hold that was we don't train that so each of those points contributes to the prosecution case that derek chauvin was unjustified in using that amount of force the police chief went on to say that. the police were required if they had to hold him down at all and he said that me hold was not acceptable in any way but if they were required to hold someone down in that prone position they were also required to lift them up on their sides so that that person could breathe that didn't happen in this case and not only did they deny medical assistance from the officers themselves there was a paramedic who came on to the scene and testified last week that she of

recess and will then reconvene shortly you've just been listening there to testimony from the daria ira donda he's minneapolis as police chief he's also the fast black police chief in minneapolis has been speaking out very forcefully about the role that police play in that community how they need to respect and protect the communities they now last year you recall shortly after george floyd's killing he acknowledged the lack of trust in the minneapolis police service saying that the system is broken acknowledging that they do need to make changes he was also the man who fired derrick shriven and the 3 police officers with him less than a day later if you are just joining us now we've been following the trial of missed a show in the form of minneapolis police officer who is accused of killing an unarmed black man george floyd last year mr sullivan is facing charges including 2nd degree murder after handcuffing floyd face down in the kneeling on his neck for nearly 9 and a half minutes in may last year and much of the prosecution questioning so far has been focused on practical training and pro

against the policy training and ethics of the force when he kneeled on george floyd's neck with daria donda fired show then and 3 other police officers involved the day off to floyd's death which he has publicly described as murder he testified that show of an acted in a way contrary to everything taught by minneapolis police are also said dignity and respect should be used at all times and officers had a jew to give medical and he said the video of the incident showed offices killing a man once there was no longer any resistance and clearly with mr floyd was no longer responsive and even motionless to continue to apply that level of force to him a person. preowned out handcuffed behind their back. that that in no way shape or form is anything that. is by policy is not part of our training and it is certainly not part of our ethics or about who's in the court also heard from the doctor who tried to resuscitate george floyd before pronouncing him dead he discarded a heart attack is likely cause of death saying floyd was starved of oxygen and the doctor. was relieving fear even before because

you know, chief aaron donda and i are actually friends.e been abused by police and beat up by police and talked bad to by police but i have got to believe that most of the police in our city are good police officers. the problem is guys like chauvin were allowed -- he would get 20 complaints and still keeps his job? that's a problem. nobody else could do that. and we -- and the police have ignored what we call thumpers. and thumper is somebody that arrests people and they always get beat up and chauvin was one of those guys. so, is it a problem? yes. but i also say are all black guys gang bangers? no. so we have to look at the police department on its merit. we need to do some changes and i think chief aaron dodged are inherited a bunch of problems. and before him it was really crazy. >> ben: what i hear when i listen to the politicians that we have on the national level is a depiction of all cops as being racist. all cops as being, to your word, thumpers, essentially. that there is no interaction that you can have with a cop where you can

really we have from the prosecution alan a very meticulous step by step questioning in which chief donda confirmed the use of force against george ford in the level of pressure exerted on his neck violated their policy training in ethics. but this is important for a couple of reasons 1st of all it is a big cultural moment that is being taught by critics of a blue wall were police officers would give evidence against one another and they believe that many wrongdoers have gone away here's a crack in the wall and this is significant because it's the chief of police in minneapolis standing up and seeing what that officer did was wrong and that's essentially what he is seeing here remember during children was called in by the day after the incident and he was fired now here we have the chief saying there's a couple of real problems 1st of all the offense that george floyd was allegedly accused of which was passing a freak $20.00 bill he said we don't normally take people into custody for that and so the initial response of approaching him with guns drawn in the view of the chief was perhaps e

over onto their side so they are able to breathe and we can hear a clip from chief medina our own donda we heard from him earlier on. once there was no longer any resistance and clearly when mr floyd was no longer responsive and even motionless to continue to apply that level of force to a person prone doubt handcuffed behind their back. that that is in no way shape or form is anything that. is by policy is not part of our training and it is certainly not part of our ethics are about use. of the court also heard from the doctor who are trying to resuscitate judge floyd before pronouncing him dead he discarded a heart attack as the likely cause of death saying floyd was starved of oxygen and dr. was your leading theory then for the cause of most of floyd's cardiac arrest oxygen oxygen the. that was one of the more likely possibilities i felt that at the time based on the information i had it was more likely than the other possibilities and dr is there another name for death by oxygen deficiency speaks is a commonly understood term. john hendren is live for us now minneapolis and of cours

who testified last week i'm curious do you feel that part of this case and the way that chief ira donda has approached all of this is that part of the beginning of some kind of reform within the play system or are you still very cynical about that. i'm cynical because. you know i can't believe in something happening that has never happened before and it would have probability but if they put they're putting on an excellent case they are doing the best they can to show the public what is needed what happened and to make sure that the jury is persuaded if they are then it will be a new departure and then we can count on feeling very positive about the police and community relations and the like but if if all this happens all of this case being put on the television of it and everything else means that he still gets acquitted then i think people will be even more distressed and more disturbed mary frances berry that professor at the n.s.a. of pennsylvania great to get your thoughts here with us now to sam will have face the check and shortly thanks for being with us. thank you well the tri

and what officer air donda observed in that video is he doesn't understand what's going on in the field. so they wanted to inject the element of doubt that is what is reasonable cannot really be ascertained from sitting at a video while sitting at a desk somewhere far from the scene. >> what are you watching out for as day seven gets under way? >> again, if we see more of these first responder testimonies, i think that's going to be incredibly impactful. yesterday judge cahill chastised the prosecution a bit for having what he called redundant testimony. again another first responder saying this was not the way that one should respond to a situation like this. but again for the jurors to see the constant stream of first responders in uniform saying that this was not what they would have done in the circumstances, i think it's incredibly powerful and i think it plays to the prosecution, which really has an uphill battle here. they have to show beyond a reasonable doubt that george floyd's death was caused by officer chauvin's contact and there was no reasonable use of force here that cou