interview: this has been n doney executive order by the president it is a- himself, but threat.e they acted on this threat, or do you believe it is merely a threat and there will not be sanctions like travel ban's, frozen assets, o or what we have seseen in o other sanctions regs by the u.s.? ms. bensouda: certainly, the executive order, as you said, we see e it as s a politicizatitiof the e process. we take it seriously of course. for usus, we will continue to do our worork. we w will not do politics. we a are a couourt of law.w. we dependd o on the state papars to s support thiss system and to defend the court. it also has a chilling effect. the u.s. is the most powerful country in the world. it has made powerful criminal prosecutions in the past. when united states of the icc is a criminal organization instead of a chilling court -- ininstead of a criminanal court, this hasa chilling effect, doesn't it? ms. bensouda: it does have a chilling effect. what i want to say is these threats and a actions from the regime are unprecedented. i would say that these tactics give rise to