then having filled it with pitch, they would get a punch, not unlike this pen here, and just donk, donkr the surface to achieve that. so done at great speed. it has a great deal of charm. it's not the world's greatest decoration, but it gives a great charm. i think it's more akin to folk art than anything else. i think you could draw the parallels with the slipwares that you get in ceramics, getting done at tremendous speed. and you get this lovely vitality to the decoration. value today... i would suggest that you're going to have to insure that for... £3,000, 3,500. fantastic. definitely no peanuts. black is a bad colour. the market doesn't like black; it doesn't like white; and it doesn't like gray. it likes lots of colour. so normally, black objects in ceramic are not very saleable. this one's particularly nice because it's such a good subject. it's a youth and... his very sexy, young girl having a very erotic kiss. that's always a good subject and the market likes that. the sculptor has, i think, been looking at probably canova and maybe rodin's "kiss." do you know rodin's "kiss"?