the great thing about the donmar warehouse, where we have the pleasure of playing it, is it's small,possible. one of the difficult things about macbeth is shakespeare kind of created a cliche. he's got the witches, which, of course, in the time he wrote — as we understand it, he probably wrote it to order because king james liked a witch and he was new on the throne, so he thought, "i'll write a play about "witches for him. "that'll cheer him up. "that'll get him on my side." and he, you know — "hubble, bubble, toil and trouble," it's all — you know, that comes from macbeth, the idea of witches dancing around a cauldron. shakespeare invented that. all: the weird sisters, hand in hand... - what's difficult about that now is he invented it so successfully, it's almost a cliche. this is where the cliche began. but that doesn't necessarily help a modern audience to see beyond it, so we're — you're trying to find ways of, what would scare a modern audience? what would unsettle you now in a way that a witch dancing around a cauldron with a frog's leg might have scared somebody in, you know