and that's what donna shemp did, as well. more than half of her coworkers smoe smoked and there were no prohibitions on smoking by the customers who came into the office. for shemp, this environment was crippling. tobacco smoke nauseated her, hence the daily antiamettic. it caused constant headaches and rashes on her face. it caused tearing and eye irritation that left her with corneal abriasions that would nt heal. now, in shemp's office, like most american workplaces in the 1970s, there were no rules separating smokers from non non-smokers. the company reasoned that rearranging the lawsuit of the office to separate smokers and non-smokers would disrupt work flow. and the union to which shemp belonged, the communication workers of america, agreed. smoking was a workplace right. now, the gas mask was not first remedy that donna shemp turned to for relief. earlier that year, she had seen a company doctor who had told her that it was a disgrace for any employee to have to work in such a smoky space. on his orders, she was not t

where do donna's case served as president, donna herself -- failed as president, donna herself was determined to change the way people work. she began an after-hours career as a workplace consultant. in the 1970's, the field of management consulting was not yet perceived as launching pad for the young and i be educated and donna jumped right in. she called her business environmental associates incorporated. it was dedicated to improving the indoor work environment, and her firm aimed to create demand for the services that only it could provide. that is, and trying to convince a business to take seriously the issue of workplace smoking and thereby to hire the firm, donna pointed to the legal liabilities created by her case. environmental provement associates pointed to the costs arising from potential non-smoker litigation as a reason for employers to consider voluntarily adopting workplace smoking rules. shimp's case for smoke-free workplaces converged on a single argument -- smoking, and quite often smokers, cost too much. they were bad employees. they destroyed equipment. they took frequent

>> donna: no. >> greg: what would happen to politicians, donna?couldn't lie, you'd have no politics. >> donna: there's no first amendment -- >> katie: we are going to move on. we are going to move on. please do not miss dana's interview tomorrow with facebook seo mark zuckerberg at 2:00 p.m. eastern. straight ahead on "the five," major coronavirus confusion after the cdc and dr. anthony fauci backtracked on some key warnings. we will tell you about that next. for business as usual. or is it? what if business as usual means putting people first... and understanding their needs? if that's your business. 365 days of every year, then business as usual is precisely what these times require. which is why your lexus dealer will do what we've always done. put you first. find out how we can service your individual needs at lexus.com/peoplefirst. ♪ >> donna: the federal government is updating some key guidance on the coronavirus. the cdc is warning it may be possible to spread on surfaces after saying last week it wasn't. they have been warnings about a pot

there's great joy for me to have as my guest reverend donna ivory who wrote her memoirs sleep, and heal and riveting store every her life. shows my guest and i am glad to have her. welcome. >> thanks. good to be here, ron. >> great. great. >> before we get into the book and memoir tell burst back ground and experiences. >> well, i am from california, born and raised. active in the united methodist church and ended up going to semmary and becoming a pastor. marrying my husband and having two little girl. just loving every single minute of life and then one day i -- we went to fancy meal at a restaurant in lake tahoe. and something fell on my head and sustained a head and neck injure and haven't worked and for 17 years i relied on a cane opioids, and wheelchair to get around. >> but you have worked. >> well, i have written it's taken me 8 years to write this book. and i do a little preaching with some of the head injury stuff and you have to rest in order to let the brain come online so to speak. so i do ally the at a time and the spirit and spirituality helped me find my way. >> right. i

having on the show, zoe included, donna.'m glad that we got to watch the first press briefing together. thank you so much. ian bremmer is the founder and ceo of the eurasia group, i believe we have him now. one of the things that kayleigh mcenany was asked about was the president's thinking about how to deal with china going forward, she was also asked about the w.h.o., i know that you pay attention to a lot of these matters. how was china reacting to the united states position here about an increasingly vocal position that china really did the wrong thing by not being transparent and allowing the virus to get out? >> strong and complete denial, pretty active efforts by the state-controlled media to get the counter narrative out more assertively than we would usually see from the chinese, but they really do not want to pick a fight with the americans, because of course, this is having a huge impact on their economy too. we cannot afford it either. so you see a lot of tough talk, but you don't see a lot of escalatory policy a

or as a lockdown izzy's apart from that the psychological effects as donna has mentioned well we have to watch out all the sleeve for the resurgence of the disease there in mind for example that the pandemic or 180-2920 influenza the 2nd wave was more lethal than the 1st wave so it could be that at a certain point we have to go back into lockdown however at present i think it's reasonable in many countries to start the process gradually or easy restrictions for example where as before you could go into shops to buy essential food and medicine perhaps you can never go into shops to buy things the not sort of central because in fact the risks can be managed and they're not so great social distancing is possible it is also in offices it is theoretically possible on public transport as well so i don't think that necessarily relaxing the restrictions means that we are pretty also for extreme risk john that is the great fair isn't it's a a 2nd wave hong kong had a bit of a an increase as more people came back to hong kong is what they're doing they're enough to stop the 2nd wave the thing.

why do it this way, donna?hy tear down the infrastructure that keeps you fed and safe, and potentially might give you a job in the future once we get through this? we are resilient americans, we are going to beat covid when we were the other. but my goodness, if you tear down the places of business, you're beating yourself. >> you know, your frustration with people tearing down buildings, people tearing down businesses, is the same frustration that many of us have. >> harris: livelihood. >> this concern that i walked to the corner, i can be shot. i can be pulled over in my car. that is the frustration. i'm not saying these are equivalent, i'm saying that we have to understand. this century-old stained, this racism, has to stop so that people understand it is not ther life that will be tomorrow marginalized. their lives matter. their businesses matter. their communities matter. yes, it matters. you burn something down, the only grocery store in your neighborhood, the only business that will cater to you, we unde

donna larsen, bbc news.ces are resuming in parts of australia under strict conditions, as lockdown measures are gradually being eased. but many churches, synagogues and mosques have decided to stay closed over concerns for older members. 0ur correspondent in sydney phil mercer told me more about how australians are adapting. across mostjurisdictions in australia's states and territories, here in new south wales for example, places of worship can now be attended by ten people. limited numbers, fewer than members of a football team but for many parishioners, it is a start. there are churches here in sydney who are asking people to phone ahead to book a spot because of those limited places available. as you said, there are large numbers of synagogues, mosques and anglican churches, certainly here in the state of new south wales, who have decided to stay closed because of concerns for older members of their congregations. and also some of those authorities controlling those churches and mosques are thinking that

that much detective donna velasquez could say for certain. but the rest?an a year of phone calls and late nights, all velazquez had come up with was an increasingly complicated web of stories and relationships. david jackson was married to barbara britton. her father, harry, disliked david. barbara went on to become the fifth wife of a man named michael wolfe. they divorced and he later married two more times. and now, finally, one of wolf's ex-wives, woman named nancy, was sitting with detective velazquez, telling police she knew everything about what happened to david. >> can you tell me again? >> because i know how he was killed and what they did with him. >> reporter: how did she know? according to the ex, michael drank. a lot. >> every night he would almost down a whole bottle of scotch, and i guess he just needed to talk. >> reporter: and the story wolfe told, according to the ex, implicated more than just himself. here's what happened, as nancy heard it. wolfe and harry britton, barbara's father, rented a motel room on that long ago july night, invi

donna: i understand being black from the ground up. what i do believe, i believe that joe biden was incorrect in saying the statement you ain't black but i also believe that his apology was sufficient. here we live in a country where thousands of people have died and a disproportionate are people of color and i would rather spend more time talking about the disparities that we have seen that have been amplified during this pandemic than speaking about joe biden and his record of black men. this is not just an issue of race, this is an issue of survival right now and i hope that joe biden has learned his lesson. his advisers have also learned lessons that you cannot be cavalier in talking about the issues. stick to the facts, that's what the radio host wanted him to do, talk about the issues because the issue matter now more than ever. chris: josh, donald trump got 8%, 8% of the vote, the african-american vote running against hillary clinton in 2016, now he's making a bigger push for that this time, talking about his support for histori

. >> reporter: the last time donna brown saw this red wallet filled with black-and-white photos, she was just 15 years old, a regular at the sunset theater in lodi. >> coming to the movie theater all the time because i lived so close and there was a grocery store at the corner. >> reporter: the ruby red billfold disappeared while she was in the bathroom at the theater back in 1962 washing her hands. donna suspects the only other person in there at the time stole it. >> when i found her i told her, i said i know you have my wallet because you were the only one in there and i said i want my wallet and i want my silver dollar. >> reporter: but she never found it until now. >> i knew i had to get back to her. >> reporter: terry clark is turning this old theater into a community and performing arts center, construction crews found the hidden treasure in the wall after they suspect someone threw it in the addict. >> that was facebook in 1960, you carried it with you. >> reporter: clark turned to social media for hope posting on facebook within hours he was connected to donna, but there was

but donna brazile, if he does not get out there and campaign, kenny actually hold onto this?ok, he is not able to physically get out there to really interact with people, but what the campaign is doing, and i think it is important to do is that they are communicating using podcasts, social media platforms, they have a virtual date again today in wisconsin. they have done it as symone said earlier across the country. so while the vice president cannot physically travel and i think that it is a healthy thing to do, he is able to communicate similar to what president trump is doing. yes, the president has flown to arizona and some other places, but the vice president i think is following the advice of scientists and those experts who say this is not the time now to mingle in a large process. >> dana: matt, i see that you lost the goatee. so things are really getting back to normal. i noticed that symone sanders said that dr. jill biden had been out and about, that she had been traveling. but they are making the distinction that to joe biden himself, he needs to stay back. it jus

i do disagree a little bit with donna.hink it's essential for democrats to make the argument every day about his manifest on fitness for the office. and also, to talk about how they'll unify the country and what will the plan be for recovery which will take many, many years from one of the most epic events in american history? but donald trump is so manifestly unfit for this office that in the end, the consequence of it will be one of the worst crises facing the country in our 200/50-year history. it has to be called out every day. what was true about the last election was this -- the person who the election was about was losing, all through the election and for most of the election it was about donald trump until the last week when it became about hillary clinton and donald trump narrowly won an electoral college victory. nobody should underestimate the power of his propaganda networks, his enormous cash advantage, he should be taking seriously as a political competitor and we should not be at each other about the profoun

donna, let me start with you on that question. give you a long list and i'm sure you could, too, of the ways that 2020 is different than 2016. trump is an incumbent now running against joe biden, not hillary clinton. we're in the middle of a pandemic. there are big differences now but i'm wondering as somebody that wants to see him out of office and somebody who lived through 2016, what gives you pause? is there anything that givers you pause when you look at the polls that now show joe biden ahead as hillary clinton was four years ago? >> well, i think one of the things that's very clear is the level of disinformation there is out there in the social media and surrounds. i mean, i think that's a concern because it's something that we didn't learn how to combat in 2016 and we've got to really learn that lesson to fight for 2020. we had a problem with, you know, sort of generating the kind of turnout that we needed in very key states and i think democrats are learned that lesson but they can't get complacent and of course, we have

. >> with us for more thankfully, donna edwards, former democratic member of congress from the great state of maryland. she is the woman shaking her head, and she is these days a "washington post" columnist. congresswoman, before we even start, i'm going to play part of attorney general nessel. this is the attorney general from michigan. what you're about to hear may explain why trump, since we've been on the air, has tweeted about the wacky, do-nothing a.g. in michigan. let's hear her out. we'll talk about it on the other side. >> i hope that the voters of michigan will remember this back when november comes, that he didn't care enough about their safety. he didn't care about their welfare. he didn't respect them enough just to engage in the very simple task, the painless task, the easy task of wearing a mask when he was provided one. and so i hope that we'll have a new president soon enough who does respect people more than this president does. >> so, donna edwards, we have that. we have the mask-wearing issue. we also have this vote-by-mail issue, which i think is a meatier use of

joining us is steve which mitt and donna edwards.midt, every friday night of the pandemic it's a 50/50 shot that donald trump is going to fire another inspector general, either investigating his misconduct or likely unearth something that will make him look bad, we're at four and counting. >> good afternoon, nicolle. this is the most corrupt administration that we have seen in the american presidency i'd argue ever. but certainly in modern era. no comparison to anything. i think the story here right now is how blatant they are, they're not hide it, they're not trying to deny it, they're simply attacking, full-on all of the institutions, all of the offices that are there to protect the american taxpayer, that serve a responsibility to the taxpayer, making sure there's no corruption going on so we see with this administration, just another example of the wanton corruption and we're going to see more of it. what donald trump took away from impeachment was that he can do anything he wants, there's no accountabili accountability, he looke

donna wants a baby, donna's gonna get a baby. ("take me out to the ball game" playing)

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former democratic party chair donna brazile and jonah goldberg, editor of the dispatch.think it's fair to say that some of the reaction, some of the outrage coming from various people about biden's remarks is largely for show but people who have set even more offensive things about african-americans during their political careers, but would you agree that the biden remark was pretty dumb? >> yeah, no.the kind of thing that a lot of democrats are worried about biden doing again and again on the campaign trail. regardless of the context of, you know, identity politics and blacks and identity politics -- almost his insecurity to have to take everything to 11 and go just a bit further than facts or rationality sometimes allow makes a lot of people very nervous about biden and in the specifics of it is, it's perfect fodder for the people who want to heighten the tensions on the democratic party and all sorts of ways and we are going to see more of this over the summer. >> chris: donna, i know is a lifelong and committed democrat that you are going to rush to joe biden's defen

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hails the russia donna victory. victory.wn of ♪ ♪\ ♪ japanese military observers see the mighty display of russian armed power. ♪ russian rocket launchers on american lend lease trucks. the soviet union celebrates the holiday and the salutes the great victories in europe. into a police court in oslo, norway, comes this man to play for his life. one of the war's most notorious traitors faces retribution for his crimes. the judge enters as the first preliminary trial for a major war criminal begins. the man who made his name synonymous with traitor to norway hears the case against him. once ruthless, now he shows signs of fear in a world free from nazism. there is no place for him. from allied headquarters in north germany, orders go out for the arrest of the last top nazis. sailors, marines and sailors who guarded these secrets are made captive. the high commanders of this curious organization which had served as a surrendering authority for defeated germany are put under arrest. in this cancel, this general lies dea

will have to rely on donna donna as for at least some of their journeys . what a great project the rocky transit buses would dedicatedly with 100 people's lives and me because i know what that's open today it papa thank you for joining us i do hope you have a good plan goes i did i am some good to know you are finding open confinement here in uganda and farewell for me to know its a way and not just of the mission foundation talk you can stay in touch by visiting our website and on our social media platforms to see the miscreant on to our next show as well by. he spent his whole working life toiling in a majlis who now is 45 year old antonio lives. just hours old higher wages get harder in order to marry you know here in kentucky one miner after another contract black lung disease. or same or cases their way or have an in out of states. leaving the victims to fend for themselves global 3000. and 30 minutes on d w. since. before the guns finally fell silent. the most war history came to an anti 945 as germany and japan surrendered. the 2nd world war. in 75 m

hospital hospie shut down in the past decade and many others are at risk of closing, a possibility donna boatright must now erar, i tyos. >> it is. this is... i'm sorry. i am called to serve. this is our home, and we want to do well. >> reporter: and survive. >> yes. >> reporter: rural hospitals facing an uncertain future. janet shamlian, cbs news, sweetwater, texas. >> o'donnell: harvard university said today it's unlikely to return to normal by the fall, raising the possibility of more online classes. this as a growing number of students say they're not getting the college experience they paid for from closed campuses. there are protests and demands for refunds. some are even suing their schools. cbs' nikole killion reports. >> reporter: anthony rojas is a second-year graduate student at the university of florida, now suing the school to recoup fees for services he says he can't access while in quarantine. >> i know there are fees ranging from transportation fees. also health fees, you know, for health centers that we can't go to right now. >> reporter: rojas says it's about $1,000. if

solo stuff forget about disco right this is really to the defining characteristic of the seventy's donna summers possibly the greatest female vocalist but much better than barbra streisand much better than madonna donna summer socially and maybe not as great as chaka khan but definitely she put the boogie into the seventy's like nobody's business i can tell you that and remember i said there's a cycle of life we've come full circle and this is and i'm most amazing quote from richard nixon in 1983 and this is when the oil embargo started and iran then as opec they said they wanted the price to double or triple they wanted to set the price higher and it was at $3.00 at the time for a barrel of oil and it did eventually go to $12.00 but richard nixon of course was angry and he said this and now think of fracking and what has happened today with negative oil prices and september of 1973 richard nixon said quote oil without a market as mr most had learned many many years ago does not do a country much good referring to the 1951 nationalization of the iranian oil industry but between october 1

donna larsen, bbc news. in one of europe's migrant camps in greece has been investigating conditions there during the coronavirus crisis. early action by the government has kept infection rates low and there have been no deaths in the camps. but, as said reza adib reports, fear of the virus has had a profound effect. for two months, i have been investigating camp conditions and fear of the virus has spread like wildfire. this is my home, malakasa camp near athens. the camp is in quarantine for 14 days. no one is allowed to go out and no one is allowed to go out and no one is allowed to go out and no one is allowed to come in. he hasjust tested positive together with his family and friends he is told to quarantine in this disused schoolroom, but no taps inside they have to share with their neighbours. they are not happy as it risks spreading the virus. at the medical centre, people are turning up worried they might have coronavirus. this is mrs recchi me. she says has a health condition. she says she has a so

donna larsen reports. italy's wait is almost over.and by 3rd june, there will be even greater movement, such as domestic and international travel. but the process comes with a warning. translation: we are facing a calculated risk. to put it frankly, we know the contagion curve may rise again. preparations are taking place across the entire country. beauty salons and shops can resume trade on monday. gyms and swimming pools will open on 25th may. cinemas and theatres will follow in mid—june. but measures must be taken to make sure people are kept as safe as possible. translation: we must accept the risk, otherwise we will never be able to start again. we should wait until a vaccine is discovered and distributed, but we can't afford this. italy has suffered immensely during the coronavirus pandemic. more than 31,000 lives have been lost — the third—highest total in the world. the rate of new infections has now dropped, providing a pathway to start opening up the country. the world's largest church is also opening on monday, after a week

don donna, what's you biggest fear of campaign with no physical interaction?oncern is that people who want to vote should be able to vote. we haven't put the kind of resources at the federal level and attention in the states to how that will play out. majority of americans want to vote by mail but the process for voting by mail is very different. people are not educated about it. i think that we have got to get a handle on those mechanics so that people will have an ability to cast a vote that they want. the press has got to be very clear about covering both candidate in as best way possible even in this virtual environment. >> what's your biggest fear on a campaign with limited or no physical interactions? >> well, i think donna's got a good point about what might happen in terms of voters not being able to show up and cast their an effective way. i think the wisconsin debacle demonstrated some of the challenges there. i think that some of the traditional ways we think about campaign, i don't know if this is a fear so much as it is someone who enjoys that pol

donna larsen, bbc news.t obama has been speaking as part of a broadcast for the thousands of us high school and college students graduating under very different circumstances to what they might have expected. one of them is frances burton, who's the student body president for the graduating class at vanderbilt university in nashville, tennessee. first of all, congratulations on your graduation. normally, graduation is about possessing a long, being watched by your family, hugging yourfriends long, being watched by your family, hugging your friends and then those caps into the air. what was it like to graduate without those rituals? it was very word, a bit anti—climactic, like you described. those are the moments you wait for for many years. i think people got pretty creative with virtual graduations across the country. you have mentioned that we got 0bama graduations across the country. you have mentioned that we got obama as our commencement speaker, and we got the jonas brothers, our commencement speaker,

donna larsen, bbc news. ambassador to israel has been found dead in his apartment in tel aviv. a police investigation has so far revealed nothing suspicious about the death of du wei, who only took up his post in february. the 58—year—old's wife and son were not with him in israel. in thailand, officials are allowing shopping malls, museums and fitness centres to open in a further easing of lockdown measures. but bars and clubs will remain closed. flights from overseas are not currently allowed. that means thailand's lucrative tourism industry is effectivley mothballed. our correspondentjonathan head is in bangkok and he's been following developments there. i think they are still hoping there will be something of a recovery. the official tourism prediction is that they will lose two thirds of the a0 million tourists they were expecting which is about a fifth of the entire economy here, but there will hopefully be some kind of resumption but nobody can say when that will be. they have continually extended the

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donna testing positive for covid-19, spending three weeks away from her daughter.his week, they were reunited. >> oh, my god! she's so tiny. they did an emergency c-section and that's the last thing i remember. here we are, together, two survivors. >> reporter: and you may remember mom christine haines, who early on, with her husband, lawrence, both of them e.r. doctors, had to make a tough decision. sending their young daughter and son away to stay with family. telling us how hard it was being separated. >> we try not to let them see us so much break down, especially if they're breaking down at the same time, but as soon as we end that call, it just breaks my heart. >> reporter: but today, on this mother's day, they sent us this video. >> oh, my goodness! >> reporter: the best gift of all for this mom. reunited after months apart. glad. a big thanks to all the moms who help put on this broadcast and a very happy mother's day to my mom and my wife. they've had to put up with a lot. thank you so much for watching. i'm tom llamas in new york. stay safe. good night. >

donna: claire? mm... donna: this is so exciting! you invited your book club?!huge fans. hang on. a book club sounds kind of regular. [ clears throat ] i should join one of those. there's about to be an opening in ours. i'm the one who invited you here. and what are you beautiful, uh, scholars reading? angie: "the unwitting miss castle." mm. i love that book. although i did find the fences metaphor a little mundane. -oh, yes. pretentious. -completely agree. i said the exact same thing last week, and you guys just rolled your eyes at me. claire, don't be such a mrs. devereaux. [ al giggling ] twinsies! donna: that is so you! hey, phil. our photo got 25,000 likes. -phil? -phil? ohh... it's probably all the meds. i'll handle this. i've been to burning man with keith richards. no, no, no. i'll handle it. i've been on vacation with my mother. hey... hey. where are you off to, stranger? honey, i need to be alone. oh, honey, i'm sorry i invited the girls from book club. it's -- i just wanted them to like me. [ sighs ] i can't believe this happened. this was supposed to

. >> host: donna in knoxville, tennessee. welcome to the conversation. >> caller: thank you, good morning. i wanted to say i do think there should be senate oversight on these ig's being fired. the reason that they are there is to find wrongdoing, so if the person is doing or finding wrongdoing and can be fired for no reason, then that's why we never learn anything until then we spend millions on investigations. i think that's a problem in the government have so much money is spent on investigation after investigation and they are supposed to be there working for the people, not just investigating each other which leads to what i think is the larger point in the problem with government today that we have the same people that are elected over and over again and have been there for 40 years, 30 years. we need term limits on these senators and congressmen so we can get new ideas, new people and stop going through this hamster wheel of investigating each other through the years. which is why i supported donald trump to start with

donna's food and drugs authority says 33 herbalists have submitted remedies for college 19 for drug approval none of them has been approved for use. a lot of good conditions are around before you see you know sort of hints but none of them is backed by scientific evidence and that do you require up so good sound scientific evidence to be able to register to be any put up to market with a decent gun his medical association also advises against illegal remedies but markets herbal medicines are being touted as a means of preventing and fighting called 19 and much to the delight of herbalists many continue to believe that they work and that is keeping people like someone a johnny jima busy. neighbor get any heads up their discipline of traditional medicine at the university of was in job in south africa and is one of the leading experts in his field how much faith do you personally put in traditional medicine just in general a lot because off its history. its stand it has stood that test all times of a man degeneration. what do you think though about this herbal remedy for madagascar is it going

. >> excuse me, donna, this is francesca. i just wanted to say it's item 16 that has been removed from the calendar, and not item 17. thank you. >> oh, my apologies. thank you. >> commissioners, before you you have the minutes of april 28, 2020. are there any additions to this list? >> second. >> may i have a second? >> madam secretary, could you open this to public comments. >> members of the public who wish to make public comment on item 3, approval of the minutes of april 28, 2020, dial 888-273-3658, access code 3107452 and followed by pound, pound. then 1, then 0 to be added to the speaker line. >> mr. moderator, do we have any calls? >> madam secretary, we do have one call in the queue. >> thank you. >> you have one question remaining. >> hi, speaker, go ahead. >> my name is francisco de costa, and you may be surprised that i'm still using my time for public comment. and the main reason being i follow all the project, and they are eight weeks into this pandemic and we have a major project that is a system improvement pro