our guests donna brazil and kevin madden are still with us. guys, reaction. mean, you have kids, kevin. this must be something you think about as a parent all the time. >> i think it's most important to look at a tragedy like this, not through the lens of partisanship, but of course through the lens, like donna said earlier, i have to look at it as a father, you have to look at it as an expectant mother. i think what's most important is children need to know they can come to their parents to talk to them when they face problems or pressuresivities that's something as a father i would focus on. i think oftentimes many children don't have that outlet or may not feel comfortable that they have that outlet, a guidance counselor or teacher or parent. that's something i think is important to address, you know, encouraging kids to express when they and not stigmatizing. that's something i took away that was a really important point that one of the guests made about stigmatizing mental health. >>> we shouldn't criminalize it. so many people who are seeking treatment

donna brazile is here. donna, like me, you met with nelson mandela. i know he inspired you. he had a huge impact on your life. give us a thought or two about this remarkable man. >> well, mr. mandela was a warrior. he was one of the most courageous individuals i have ever worked with. he was a champion for freedom. he expanded democracy. he transformed south africa, the african continent, but he was really a leader, someone who was gracious when you were with him in person. back in 1993, i escorted him with one of my friends to the inaugural of bill clinton. he wanted to be here in the united states to witness that moment and of course, later, we all witnessed his inaugural in south africa, but he was a strong man, a determined man, but somebody who believed in unity, in peace and bringing people together, especially after spending so many years in prison. >> so many people around the world, including in the united states, they struggled to get rid of that apartheid regime and he eventually succeeded together with so many others who worked so hard to do it, and he inspired a

i drive down that massachusetts avenue like john king does, donna brazil does every day. e that statue and i see the construction going on there. and i think of the history of south africa. and it is a wonderful tribute that donna, a quick time thought. >> no question about it. i think mr. mandela would want to us gather at that statue to remember his long journey. >> if you look at capitals around the world, there are divisions. some violent, some political. what a lesson this man was of the power of dignity and grace. & and mr. ambassador, thank you for joining us. we'll be with you next wednesday. we'll be watching what's happening in south africa over the next ten days of mourning. nelson man dadela has passed aw. thank you for watching our special situation room coverage of the passing of nelson mandela. much more coming up right now on erin burnett "outfront" with jake tapper filling in. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> good evening. you're watching erin burnett "outfront." we're following the news story of nelson mandela, the first black president of south

. >> at many times in his life, many transformations, donna brazil is squining us. a, you met him and spent time with him. it can't be over stated. the courage that it took for him just starting out as a young man and so many others, whites, indians, black south africans to oppose this system, this system of a part tide, which at the time was entrenched. it didn't seem like they could overcome it. >> well, he used the power of persuasion. he understood as an activist, as a lawyer that he could find it in the courts but he had to fight it in the court of public opinion. he knew he had to bring allies to the table. he had to lead not just black people but he also had to form coalitions with white people, people of conscience and nelson mandela believed that if you want to convince your enemies, you have to work with your enemies. he understood that and he brought people together at the table to achieve those goals. i was struck whenever i had an opportunity to see him. he was always joyful. he was optimistic. he really believed that he could concur the system and when

mira tandem and anna navaro and donna brazile. welcome all. one of my favorite ways to end the year is with you guys. i want to start out with something that i thought was pretty amazing. we called it the shrinking presidency. president started out with a 55% approval rating. and by the end of the year he was at 41%. this caught my attention. he was talking about health care. this happened in december. i thought i actually framed the year nicely. here's what he said. >> there was a time when i was young and invincible. after five years in this office, people don't call me that anymore. >> he is no longer young and invincible. it happens to presidents after four years. what happens to him next year? >> four out of the last five two term presidents have experienced some setback in their fifth year. so president obama's like the other presidents. he gets that fifth year itch and clearly he's resilient. i think he has an agenda going forward, immigration, making sure the implementation of health care, the improving economy, making sure that all am

intelligence officers, military, et cetera, is going to get together in a room, let's look at donna brazile'secords. it's the collect of metadata. you need to go to a judge to get a warrant to see who donna is talking to, and so, i think a lot of this is people, we need to be serious about the national security side of this and the constitutional side of it as well. lot of glib talk about the abuse of privacy. >> you're shaking your head, greta. >> i am. bill, you're dead wrong. it will be proven to be a wrong decision. >> this is 1979 supreme court decision that did say the police in this case could collect the phone records of one individual? >> that's right. the supreme court has reversed itself before, brown versus board of education. all you have to do is one thing, go back to the fourth amendment it's not an option, the constitution is right for people to be secure in their houses, shall not be violated. if the government thinks this information is so important, it can get it. it just has to use a warrant. there is no fear exception. because everybody is terrified of terrorism. there's

donna brazil as well. nelson mandela leaves behind a large family., father, grand father. some of their memories ahead. more also about the reality of apartheid and south africa today. what is happening there now. it's important we talk about that as well. this was the hardest decision i've ever had to make. jim, i adore the pool at your hotel. anna, your hotels have wondrous waffle bars. ryan, your hotels' robes are fabulous. i have twelve of them. twelve? shhhh, i'm worth it& what i'm trying to say is, it's so hard to pick just one of you, so i'm choosing all of you with hotels.com. a loyalty program that requires no loyalty. plus members can win a free night every day only at hotels.com [s[man] no one told her,right?a. [son]hi! [mom screams] at kaiser permanente we've reduced serious heart attacks [people clap and cheer] by 62%, which makes days with grandpa jack 100% more possible. join us at kp.org and thrive. freedom obviously came a great personal cost to nelson mandela and his family. his 27 years in prison robbed him of time with his family

chief national correspondent, john king, our cnn political commentators, democratic strategist donna brazileer bush speech writer, david frum. john, let me play this clip. this is the president acknowledging the blunders as far as the rollout of the affordable care act, and then he made a turn. >> the fact is it didn't happen in the first month, first six weeks, in a way that was at all acceptable. and since i'm in charge, obviously we screwed it up. you've still got two million people who signed up, or more. and so what that means then is that the demand is there and as i said before, the product is good. >> so what do you think of this strategy? can he move beyond some of the failures by pointing out some of the successes? >> number one, good for him. presidents hate that question. what was your biggest failure in the year and he answered it. he meandered but answered it. it was obvious what the answer was but at least he answered. look, the president has a tough job right now. he's at the lowest approval rating of his presidency. many of his own party, in his own party, are starting to ab

. >>> let's bring in donna brazile. the free south africa movement in the 1980s. donna, thank you for joining us. you knew mandela for many years. tell us about your friend, the man who inspired you. >> he was a humble man, has many have mentioned. he was a man of grace, tremendous courage. but he was also a human being who was not afraid to tell you about his own fears. nelson mandela once said that courage was not the absence of fear, but acting in spite of it. he was just someone who wanted to bring people together, unify. as you know president clinton was a personal hero of nelson mandela. and during the 1992-'93 campaign, he wanted to come for the inaugural after visiting the united states in the summer of 1990. and i was chosen as one of his staff people to help out with bringing him around to several of the inaugural balls. he was curious. he loved people. and although we were always concerned about his health, you know, we were tiring him out. he wanted to do more and more and more. it was a great honor to go to

national review senior editor ramesh panur, jackie kucinich and donna brazile. s start on a high note. hi, donna. look at that. >> seven hours and 20 minutes, i can't wait. >> you're going -- you should celebrate tonight because you won't be celebrating sunday when the eagles play the saints. i want to make sure we establish that. let's talk about a high note. let's talk about a glimmer of hope. what is your glimmer of hope for 2014? looking back at the year. i'll start with you, jackie. >> i will say the senate budget deal. it had everything. it had paul ryan, patty murray, opposite ends of the spectrum, it had both houses voting for it, a presidential signature, it's how legislation should work. what does that say about the future? hopefully they follow that example. >> ramesh, best news of 2013. >> skepticism about government remains at a healthy level. it's actually rising and on a bipartisan note, i have to give some credit to president obama for helping to generate a lot of that. >> i thought you were going to compliment him there. i guess not. it's still g

the film make here spoke with mandela's daughter and granddaughter and donna brazil.'ve called him a giant in history and a rare leader. tell us what he was like as a person. >> he was mischievous. he was is he self-deprecating. and he made people around but what really struck is here is a guy whose not just a political giant but really a moral giant and not just opposition to a part child. it was also his leadership on things like reconciliation and aids and hiv and lgbt rights, which was very unusual for south africa. >> nick, i want to interrupt you to show that's the white house flag at half staff being lowered, having been lowered earlier this evening. please proceed. >> it under scores to a degree not just a leader of south africa but a leader for the word, and, you know, i think he embodied a certain amount of self-sacrific self-sacrifice, there is a lot of frustration globally and here is a man that gave up a promising legal career, who gave up 27 years, who refused to be released early. insisted on unconditional release who separated from his wife because of

that is outlined in donna brazil's autobiography.it is interesting to see how this man, who everyone, when the story broke two years ago, people were like, who is jeffrey thompson? i've never heard of him. especially a lot of the local mainstream media. but i can remember seeing his photo in a lot of the black weeklies basically documenting his charities. so i knew this jeffrey thompson person. i knew he had city contracts. but i don't think people understood what a behind-the- scenes player he was, starting from years ago, both locally and in the federal government. >> i want to run a 2.5-minute piece that we found on "the washington post" website are -- of you. what is the origin? that is new. >> you know, the story used a lot of new technology that we are trying at "the washington post," and maybe technologies -- technology is the wrong word. but if you go to our website and you read my story in a different template than what you see with , they were like, let's try this video, similar to something "frontline" was doing. we did it

joining me around the table, kevin madden, cory dade, contributing editor at theroot.com and donna brazilu all for joining us. this caught my eye, it was from a column or sort of a how to from kathleen sebelius which appeared yesterday and among her hints to how to deal with this website now was to shop healthcare.gov during off-peak hours. like mornings, nights and weekends. which says to me there still might be some problems. >> well, if you want to, you know, see a website that's loading the pages faster, you're able to get most of your information and she's absolutely right. i got on at 3:00 a.m. this morning, i thought it was a good time to get on the web, and it worked perfectly. but i also got on this morning at 7:00. >> what happened at 7:00? >> it worked fast. some of the bugs are out of it. but the health care law is not just a website. you can a ply in perspply in pe the telephone. there are churches reaching out to the uninsured to get them to apply. to the website, i don't know if it's 100% fixed but at least you have better experience when you get on. >> i think we can be re

donna brazile, anna navaro and others with their take on 2013 including politicians behaving badly. >eople on the internet. >> historic year for same-sex couples. >> i now declare you spouses for life. >> and -- >> there was a time when i was

donna brazile, thank you as well, john king with wonderful mementos from that time as well.icant memories you have of a great leader. >> fun to celebrate that life. >> isn't it? >> it is. it is. we'll take a break now. on the one hand we're celebrating the passing of this great man. >>> back home we're also bracing because we are encountering very dangerous weather. when we come back we'll be talking to you about that. you know what's going on now. you're looking at it on the screen. the storm is moving. dangerous conditions, especially because of ice. where is it going? where to expect the worst. what to do. we'll tell you when we come back. no one could have left this much money here. whoo-hoo-hoo! yet many seniors who compare medicare d plans realize they can save hundreds of dollars. cvs/pharmacy wants to help you save on medicare expenses. talk to your cvs pharmacist, call, or go to cvs.com/compare to get your free, personalized plan comparison today. call, go online, or visit your local store today. [ male announcer ] campbell's homestyle soup with farm grown veggies.

i'm donna brazil on the left. >> i'm s.e. cupp. >> senators on different sides of the budget vote. on the left, the budget deal cleared a major hurdle in the senate and the final vote comes tomorrow. it's not a great deal, it's arguably not even a good deal. i understand why some republicans are unhappy about this. voters would rather be angry with their representatives for doing something they don't like than for not doing anything at all. we'll see if our guests agree. >> after the fiscal cliff, the government shutdown, we have a bipartisan budget deal that everyone should be proud of. it's not perfect, but we should be proud of. >> there we go. >> in the crossfire, jon tester and senator wicker. >> we are joined by the mississippi river. senator wicker, i know you don't like this deal, but there are a lot of people in mississippi hurting right now. why are you going to oppose this good bipartisan deal? >> let me say, i liked your lead in. my friend lindsey graham knows how to turn a phrase. and i, this is a compromise. i e

boeing did tremendous work in brazil and will continue to do tremendous work in brazil led by ambassador donna ryeneck and the great boeing the teams that have come down to brazil. but this will not affect, obviously, the kind of cooperation we have developed over time with the brazilian air force. but as i noted and, you know, we have seen kind of clear signs from the brazilian government that it is prepared to engage with us in a meaningful way on issues related to disclose yours whether it be -- disclosures whether it be in international settings such as i said unicef, i met unesco -- unesco, such as unesco and the u.n. general assembly. but also its sons to snowden's -- its response to snowden's request for asylum. so in that regard i feel pretty good about where we are right now. oh, i'm sorry. listen, this is an ongoing discussion we're having, and, you know, we've made it very clear that, you know, that we're prepared to reschedule. and so i still hi our conversation -- think our conversation with the brazilians have to ripen a little bit before we can get a response from them. >> yes.

brazil faces a relatively easy path. that is after the draw that included x ago. the united states was in the toughest group with germany, portugal, and donnanormally sun swept texas is called. it is being called ice friday. the national weather service issued ice warnings for parts of texas, oklahoma, and six other states. minnesota and wisconsin were hit with as much as two feet of snow. in north temperatures dakota have been 40 below zero. that is a look at top stories in the news for this hour. it is a time to look at the commodities report. su keenan is in the newsroom with insight on today processor. was a bigs report driver for commodities, as it was for stocks. oil futures rose. we are seeing the biggest weekly gain since july. these were spectacular jobs numbers. and they ultimately support higher energy prices. he says that we are ready seeing demand picking up. he says this is the signal that it was be stronger going ahead. , as the payrolls showed that far less workers were hired. there were reports about tapering. the gold market does not like the reports. he doesn't expect a big selloff. he is a ready seen a lot of liquidation