donna brazile, where do we go from here? i still believe stand your ground law has no place in our society. it's time to take a second look at it. >>. >> jenny hutt? >> there shouldn't be racial profiling. it's disgusting. sunny's right, our kids today tend to be color blind, which is the right way to be. >> sunny, i feel like we have these debates. does that take us anywhere? do we move forward to the countenance of one's character instead of the color of the skin as your honor quoting dr. king? >> i'd like to think so, that's the one thing that comes from this trial that we can move forward and perhaps reexamine stand your ground, reexamine racial profiling, acknowledge that there is an issue and acknowledge that we can change and progress. talking about it is the very beginning. >> sunny hostin, jenny hutt, donna brazile, thank you very much as we discuss what's in the minds and in the hearts. so many americans because of these two little words w

donna brazil said simply star jones is speaking for me right now and i'm sure you're speaking for manye, particularly about rachel jeantel. who has taken a drumming, and in my view, extremely unfairly. let's get to the trial itself. how do you think this trial is playing out? you can have all the views you like and i have views and you have views whether zimmerman should have gotten out of the vehicle, whether he should have been carrying a law, et cetera, et cetera. under florida law as things stand, most legal experts i spoke to do not believe the prosecution have established second degree murder. >> second degree murder is a very high standard in florida's law. as i looked -- as i looked at the law, the requirement for ill will, spite or depraved mind seems insurmountable. however, i think a skilled prosecutor can argue the facts of the case to establish ill will. i think the prosecution can argue spite. i don't have any problem with not being able to prove the depraved mind but an aspect of the murder statute can be proved. good prosecutors know how to argue the law and the facts a

tried to reclaim its power to use it in other ways, like in art and music and cnn contributor donna brazil joins us now to go through some examples. thank you for joining us, your prospective on this is profound. you get the whole incarnation of the whole world. is there such thing as a good use of the word even in lyrics? >> no, i don't believe -- you should use this word at all. by the 1900s, it had become a pejorative word. and as they were shipped to the united states, they were called that. it derives from the latin term niger, the portuguese word for "black," but it had become so insulting, demeaning, and threatening, many americans, citizens were killed when that word was used, lynching, there's so many negative connotations that i don't believe in the cultural way the way it's used by some artists. they spell it differently n-i-g-g-a versus n-i-g-g-r. i was taught very early in life when i heard the word never to repeat it, never to use it, and my mother would also tell us it's not what you call someone, it's what they answer to. meaning, if we were called the "n" word, don't respo

i mean, in fact, i was talking about it the other day with donna brazil, as a matter of fact., you know, she was a beneficiary of title ix. i said, you know, i love the fact that you get young women who are just so active, there's no second thought about it, you know? they're active in sports because the law made sure they were treated, those sports for women were treated equally. >> host: it's so fascinating how late so many rights and responsibilities and respect came and protections came all during your four -- i mean, many of them during your four decades of service that you were really there at a formative period that many, you know, people, women younger than you may take for granted. but you were a witness to the changes. >> guest: right. >> host: women especially really should read about the fights you had to wage on behalf of women. i loved, also, an anecdote about your much-revered senator margaret chase smith of maine when gave a speech called "the declaration of conscience" really directed at mccarthyism but not naming senator joe mccarthy in june of 1950, and you

donna brazile hot on the sharknado tweeting.d they were like we can't stop. we know these bills are moving. we had to watch sharknado. >> i guess it's a bit of escapism or some parallelism? >> i think more people would like to see sharknado than congress in action because they have no faith whatsoever. sharknado seems to be more popular entertainment for them. >> fun to watch as all four can agree upon right now. stand by. a governor working for free makes the big three best and worst of the week, all three, come back in just a little bit. twelve bucks a night! no. they have waterbeds. ew. no! are we near a gas station? [ phone beeps] [ phone ] no. is that from the mini bar? [ both ] no. is that a cop? no. [ cop ] do you know how fast you were going? no. eighty-seven [ groans ] he's right. is that oscar mayer? [ karen] yes! [ male announcer ] in a world filled with "no", it's nice to finally say "yes". oscar mayer selects deli meat, no artificial preservatives and gluten free. it's yes food. it's oscar mayer. that's me... i made

donna brazile tweeted me, political strategist, cnn.dent focus on a discussion on race? no, focus on jobs and opportunities for all. >> i agree. >> if it's not the president, then who does? >> i love donna, but i disagree. i think the president restores the conversation. >> he has already done this. he has done it by being the first african-american president. he has other things he needs to do. and i think what needs to happen is that people like me, like emily, like others in the media and others who are grassroots politicians need to start it from the bottom. these are conversations. in this book barack obama says one conversation can change a life, and it's people who are out there who are preaching for people to be sympathetic and for people to be understanding of other people. >> emily miller, i'm going to give you the last word. >> i want to go back to the point that the prosecution, the jury, and the fbi have all said that race played no role in the facts of this case, so anything that comes out of this that is race related is n

. >> i have african-american friends, including folks like donna brazile, who i have heard said thate on this, should not become more political and that he's got other things to do like focusing on jobs and the economy. now, i also have to tell you that the reality is, he is a black man. and i think what he did was give a very personal perspective. i thought his statement was measured and it was balanced. it gave respect to the judicial process. it acknowledged that there had been a judicial process that had run its course and that we must respect it. it also called for nonviolence. but it also gave a very personal perspective, and i have to tell you, only somebody that's been in those shoes can share. and it is not -- you know, it's not terribly unusual for a president to weigh in on an issue that has consumed the national attention and been part of the national debate now for weeks on end. so i know there's going to be people that find it difficult, that are not going to like it. i think he stayed away from the politics of it. and i think it was a measured and balanced statement. >