>> guest: >> host: -- donna brazilhe has a better answer but bernie outperformed compared to what you expected. did you notice, maybe you didn't, hillary clinton's persuasion game was until he dropped out. did you notice that? she got weapons grade over the summer. a real change that happened instantly, went from let me tell you about my boring policy and check my website, won't tell you about it. then this -- he will destroy the world with nuclear weapons, fear, the ultimate persuasion, the word dark, as soon as i side and all the pundits got the memo and started using it, the dark chapter of the republican convention, i think i know who is advising her and i think he was advising bernie before. bernie had the most award-winning campaign ad, the one with the simon and garfunkel song america, people screaming, i got chills when i watched it it was so good. he had all the game and then suddenly she went from nothing to something and i speculated that one of the greatest persuaders of all time may have joined her team after leaving the sinking bernie ship. i had been calling him godzill