donna dirani is director of learn afghanistan. get to have you back here on the stream. i love the way that you approach women's rights in afghanistan, particularly when and joe's in the international community. talk about women's rights. and i've got, i said this is so important. of course it is important, but you just look at it in a very different way. so that perspective, cuz i think it's an employee one for audience to hear that 1st of all, thank you for having me. the 2nd thing is that when international community hippocratic f, y, i sure state again could justify a war bombing houses going people 20 years ago by saying that we are helping the on women and children in conflict. how come 20 years later, that has changed to the we have the same conflict. people are more tiring. their mothers were having bad. why these babies are having their mothers who conceded babies and women who can't access hospitals right now there's those. we cannot access schools, right. now, so i think right now it's more complex than it was in 2001 because in 2001 they came in and read it u