michael had colorful things to say to donna hogan. those are whimsical and not so whimsical moments at the time. it just suggested the controversy of the natural tone -- national town. we came through it as a country and we come through these things as we did during the administration. how do we in a free society that believes in rule of law and accountability keep the president and those around him or her honest? and if they are serious allegations of wrongdoing, are we simply going to say, excuse me, our chief executive is above the law. not in the united states, and that is part of the glory. it is unpleasant, especially not fun for those wrapped up in it, and for president clinton and hillary and chelsea, this is a horrible episode to go through. on a personal level, yes, lost of -- lots of cough, but in terms of who we are as a free people, isn't it reassuring to know that truly no one is above the law? that is the goal. no one is above the law. mr. beed: that is a statement you have made publicly and also in a book frequently. i