donna kane has more from van. there are counter demonstrations taking place, several of them right now, but the numbers of those are not in the same order of magnitude as at the central or if day demo. and the central issue is that idea of the energy crisis and the policies that the german government has implemented to try to help people pay their bills. and that sort of thing. the i have de says that it represents a grass roots movement of people who are really fed up with the sorts of policies the government has put out. and yet opinion polls very recent opinion polls suggest an overwhelming majority of the german people don't take that view. that in fact, they say that even with the war and ukraine, even if prices rise prices for gas up trust, that sort of thing rise. they still support the german government's point of view and it is worth making the points. this movement this rallied to day owns alonso al, stuffed in german is the way it's been referred to. that means our land, our country 1st. and yet interes