it was a work of a second to reach in under my donna karen, through my open in the front, through thent on, that's when the adrenaline started and it become a fight and it was -- it hurt. it was against my will. >> president trump saying in a statement in response, i've never met this person in my life. she's trying to sell a new book. that should indicate her moatation. it never happened. >> carroll showed this photo. and a friend that says carroll told her about the attack the very next day. joining me now my guests. welcome to you both this morning. first to you, do you believe carroll's account of what happened here? >> not at all. it doesn't pass the sniff test. there is no fact witnesses, eye witnesses, no videotape, no police report, no record from a hospital if she was allegedly assaulted. this is just a he said/she said situation. in this country, we have the presumption of innocence. president trump is innocent. the burdenen is on the accuser prove that this happened. she can't even get her facts straight on the alleged state. she can't remember if it is the spring of '96 or

. >>> i was wearing just a black donna karen coat dress and tights.f a second to reach in under my donna karen, it opened in the front, through the dress, and pull down my tights. that's when i -- that's when my brain -- that's when the adrenaline started. it became a fight. >>> that was writer e jean carroll detailing her allegation against donald trump and describes the incident in "new york" magazine in which she says donald trump assaulted her in a dressing room in bergdorf goodman. >>> president trump denied the allegation, saying the incident never happened. he says he has never met this person. >>> "new york" magazine published a photograph that depicts donald trump and e. jean carroll together. let me start with you. this is part of an excerpt that centers on her creation of her most hideous men in my life. your reaction to it. she in this piece says she's the 16th woman to come forward here. there's a paragraph in which she names the 15 women who have come before her to allege something of this nature, an assault against president trump. >> i