so -- >> i'm joined now by donna lieberman, executive director of the new york civil liberties union and heather mcdonald, senior fellow at the manhattan institute and author of the book "are cops racist?" thank you both for coming on. so is this racial profiling if. >> you bet it is. you know, the mayor says this is all about stopping criminals. well, do you mean to tell me that the nypd, new york's finest, is wrong 90% of the time? 90% of the people that they stop are so innocent that in an era of zero tolerance, they walk away without even a summons for disorderly conduct. so the nypd isn't stopping suspecting criminals. they're stopping suspected black and latino people. and that's racial profiling and it's illegal. >> miss mcdonald, what do you say? >> race has nothing to do with the way the nypd developed its tactics. it's going into neighborhoods where people are being most victimized by crime. that crime is what drives where the police go. and nothing has had as large an effect on saving minority lives as the new york proactive policing. you mentioned the statistics, michael,

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i spoke to many including donna lieberman of the new york city liberties union and benjamin jealous prickirst, out to sharpton. >> the fact is, the mayor has not confiscated any more guns than 2003. 80% of the people they stopped weren't not committing crimes. so how is it safer? the net result is, in a more innocent people harassed and you're not collecting more guns. why have a negative if you can sit down with the kennedy, sit down with the policy makers like the new york city civil liberties union and come up with a policy that does not say, check your support rights and liberties at the door to fight against crime? we want to fight crime critics what legislation do you want to see past? >> we want the passage by the city council of the committee justice act. we want an independent inspector general for the nypd. every agency in this country in every other police department in the nation has an independent inspector general except the nypd. it is clear what happens when you do not have accountability. they're out of control. >> do think president obama should issue an executive order?