donna rice hughes joins me now. donna, nice to see you. i want to ask you, first, why do you think monica lewinsky is talking now after all this time? >> i think it's hard for me to determine why but i can certainly understands she wants to, that she wants to share who she is and to be taken seriously. so i have to applaud her for being quiet all of this time and avoiding the temptation and there are so many temptations to lash out, to blame, to exploit the situation and she did go underground for a very long time and she probably feels like she needs to, in her own way, set the record straight so that she can move forward. >> she wrote this essay to "vanity fair." i'm sure had you a chance it read some of it. >> i have. >> we reported on it there. what do you make of what she wrote and how it's being received? >> it really rang true to me. i could feel her pain and her frustration and many of the things that she said and she experienced. i had been through a lot of that myself, and so i -- i really felt for her but i have to say i'm very

donna rice hughes was caught in a scandal in her mid-20s and spent the rest of her life. she became a christian, and she spent the rest of her life fighting against child pornography. >> right. >> she is a hero. there is a path forward for her. and there is a path forward for her to deal with. >> i think that's a very important point. and monica lewinsky has said that she wants to help against bullying and this kind of stuff. but you did point out that people maybe owe her an angie on the left. but do you think people on the right like ken starr and others who used her as a political weapon owe her an apology? >> i don't think he used her. i think what happened is the direct result of the president lying under oath. i mean, i was here for this. and we can go back and refight that whole thing if you guys want to. i was here for that. and most of you were too. >> all right. >> but the bottom line is the left treated and the clinton machine treat herd horribly. she is a victim. and she was mistreated to some extent by both sides. >> i think we can all agree with that. all ri

i interviewed donna rice for the "daily beast," a victim of a major sex scandal over involvement with gary mart she talked how different the coverage is and she also pointed out that gary hart went away and the clintons have not. so why won't she shut up? it is possible she is asking the same, if she went away her name would not be in the public eye. >> and there is an upside and a down side so being in the position if she had the same universe when this happens, she would have gotten the serious fame and had some sort of internet show, reality show, and she never got any of that is it could be where she is asking for it a. >> she tried it on fox. she tried making hand bags, that didn't work. she had has a hard time getting traction. >> she had the barbara walters interview and the book about it but let's push this to "vanity fair." should they give her this platform, first person piece, without having to submit to questions by an interviewer? who gets that? >> first of all, the largest advertisement for a job or a husband i have ever seen. >> ouch! >> the truth. why wouldn't they? >>

i interviewed donna rice for the daily beast, the first previous big victim of a major sex scannedle with gary hart. >> over her involvement with gary hart, yes. >> she did talk about how different the coverage is and how that impacts things. she also pointed out for instance gary hart went away and the clintons have not. when someone like andrea pieser says, why won't she shut up and go away? >> in the new age, there's an upside an a down side to being in the position that monica lewinsky is in. if she had a twitterverse when this happened, she'd have gotten the serious fame and had some sort of -- >> reality show. >> internet show or reality show. she never got that. >> she tried that on fox and it didn't work. she tried making handbags and that didn't work. she's had a real hard time getting traction. >> she had the barbara walters interview and the big book about it. but let's turn this to "vanity fair." should "vanity fair" be giving more th monica lewinsky this platform? >> i think first of all it's the largest advertisement for a job or a husband i've ever seen. >> ouch. >> we

but this week, donna rice hughes is devoted to make the internet safer for kids, with enough is enough. thank you for joining us. >> hi, bill, good to be with you. >> what did you think when you saw the piece regarding monica and vanity fair, trying to take back her narrative. >> i applaud her for trying, i thought she was very articulate. my heart went out to her, bill, i think she has had a rough time for a lot of reasons. and it is very hard for anybody to really empathize with this sort of perfect storm scenario and not be able to get on with your life. fortunately i made some choics s that moved me along. there was not anyone prior to me that had kind of carved that path. so it is a difficult thing no matter what you are. >> you are i guess pre-internet, so you had relative anonymity. but what was it like seeing your face in news print? >> well, it was not anonymity at all. what happened was when the real news goes tabloid, and the perceptions, it is hard to break through the labels and perceptions, so for me, it was like a year and a half. i came to a fork in the road where i cou

in a few minutes we will talk to donna rice hughes whose relationship with then senator gary hart derailedgn. we will talk to her about how she successfully recovered from that scandal and what advice she might have for monica lewinsky. first i want to remind you what lewinsky revealed to "vanity fair." from the arms of the president to the pages of "vanity fair" magazine. she has found her voice and she has plenty to say. in her tell-all essay for the magazine she says it's time to burn the beret and bury the blue dress. world's most famous intern opening up to vanity fair about her affair with president clinton. the scandal it created in 1998

the next year that same reporter brought donna rice to the dinner who helped ensure that gary heart would never get to speak at a correspondence dinner. then ellen degeneres just two weeks coming out in once a sleepy get together has evolved into a celebrity studded event. stars lining up for a chance to see and hear the president. reporters clambering for the chance to mingle with the stars, which in recent years has produced a backlash of its own. with critics and reporters saying the event has become too big. this will be the seventh year "the new york times" will not be in attendance at the dinner. the bureau chief at the time in 2007 saying "we came to the conclusion it evolved into a very odd celebrity-driven event that made it look like the press and government all shucked their roles for one night of the year, sing together and have a grand old time cracking jokes. it feels like it sends the wrong viewers like we are all in together and it is all a game, it feels uncomfortable." one of the press corps made this case, we should get rid of the white house press corps altogether. all

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