democrat donna shalala is doing that, representing florida.to get educated on this murderous tyrant castro. take time to speak to some constituents in florida before you sing the praises of fidel castro. bernie's point he got people reading, castro got people reading in cuba, you wonder if bernie lost florida? weren't there other ways to literacy in cuba than turning if it into aiguille large. large -- gulag. >> these people fled castro's regime. they know the truth of what a communist dictatorship actually looks like. when bernie sanders goes out and defends this because they have a good literacy program, these people know better. they have been there. it is really defenseless. liz: to your point, bernie sanders already refused to recognize venezuela's opposition interim president juan guaido who stands for freedom and bernie refuses to condemn venezuela's communist dictator maduro for his atrocities. watch this. >> do you consider juan guaido the legitimate president of venezuela? >> no. i think what has to happen right now, i think there ar

joining me, democratic congresswoman donna shalala.retary of health and human services under president clinton. an enormous amount of expertise on this kind of thing. thanks for taking the time this morning. >> you're welcome, jim. >> first, tell us what you learned from the briefing. what were the headlines, in your view? >> the headlines were that the administration is moving very quickly to get tests in place, to make sure that we have the resources to identify where the virus is spreading in the united states. let me say that this administration and the previous administrations have world class scientist physicians. the best people in the world to deal with this crisis work for the united states government. and the fact that it's now being coordinated by the vice president out of the white house, i happen to think is a good thing. even though the president stepped all over the message the other day. i don't know what it is about politicians. they have to get in front of the camera and he said something the opposite of what scientis

i want to go to donna shalala, former hhs secretary under clinton and now u.s. congresswoman under florida. how is he doing on those two jobs, leading the government and leading the people? >> well, he's not doing very well on the coronavirus, let me assure you, because the test of leadership is not talking about something you know very little about and he just confused the american people about whether this virus is going to spread. all the scientists said it is going to spread and the president gave the opposite impression. and presidents have to know that when they're in a situation like this with complicated science, they put the scientists, physicians in front of them, preferably, by the way, in white coats, and let them reassure the american people, number one, with what they know and what people can do. we just saw a president confuse everyone with his answers. >> let me go to steve schmidt on this. a larger question, both questions, chief executive and leader of the country, head of state. which role was he playing here well or badly? >> well, i think to

to be clear, we had donna shalala on, former hhs secretary herself in the clinton administration said, listen, the administration is taking this very seriously, taking the steps that are necessary. for your perch there, what more needs to be done or are those steps so people at home can feel comfortable being taken right now? >> well, testing is number one. we have sort of gone over that. those tests have to work. and they have to be given to a lot more people. i say this not to scare people, but it is very likely that there is community spread in other parts of the country and we just don't know about it. the woman in selanno county is the canary in the coal mine, the first one we have come upon. but this is a highly infectious disease. it is very he likely that someone has brought it back to another part of the united states and another part of the united states and we're going to find that out. that's not reason to panic. that's reason to prepare. and we just don't know yet what we don't know. and that's what the cdc keeps telling us. we will likely have more community spread in th

i want to commend chairman frank pa lowell and congresswoman donna shalala for their leadership. the youth videotaping epidemic is a -- vapping jepped a public health emergency that threatens our youngsters. one in four high schoolers are using e-cigarettes and not just occasionally. more than a third of users in high school said that they were smoking e-cigarettes at least 20 days a month. my granddaughter, who is a high schooler, when i asked her about this, she said, it is everywhere. everyone is smoking e-cigarettes. last year, i hosted a hearing on youth vapping crisis in a subcommittee. as experts have said, the flavors are a key factor in this. many one out of -- seven out of 10 current e-cigarette users say they use them because, quote, they come in flavors i like. and nearly all or 97% use flavored e-cigarette in the past month. mango, mint, cotton candy are some of the 15,000 flavors still available thanks to the loophole laden action the trump administration took in january. the president made a promise in the oval office to the american families, to ban flavors, which

>> florida democrats say yes, with donna shalala firing back, i'm hoping in the future, senator sanders will take time to speak to some of my constituents before he decides to sing the praises of a murderous tyrant like fidel castro. south carolina voters will weigh in first on saturday, followed by super tuesday. even some biden supporters are now unsure who is the strongest democrat to challenge trump. >> you think that vice president biden is the strongest democrat to beat president trump? >> i think it's a toss-up. i believe joe biden is the one to do it, me personally. i think that bernie sanders may have what it takes, but i think that joe biden has that history. he has that -- i believe that if he's the candidate chosen, that everyone will get behind him. >> now, one thing is clear when you talk to so many voters here. there is an age breakdown. older voters are still supporting the former vice president. some younger voters said, look, they like senator sanders. when senator sanders takes the stage at a town hamm here, the audiences coming in, he's going to see a spotlight shini

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you got someone like democratic congress from and donna shalala who represents miami comes out today on the could of atrophied and says, no that's not going to fly with us down here. another young congressman did the same, both democrats. i think the trump versus bernie change magica change the way we look at the world map. what's interesting, i was in colorado over the weekend where no matter who won in the state, they would pledge all the delegates to whoever won the national popular vote, what if president trump wins the popular vote because of this? all of that effort on the left would've been for nothing and they'll try to change a system for no reason. >> jesse: there goes that talking point. can't wait until that happens. i just realized, one, if bernie is the nominee is going to have to defend bernie sanders for nine months. it's going to change the whole dynamic of "the five." about the literacy program, greg, they were teaching kids how to read hemingway and how to use an adverb. this was a propaganda effort. they were having them read karl marx. that wasn't the literacy! r

florida democrats, including donna shalala outraged by bernie sanders.s. >> he hasn't been down here to talk to residents, to understand how our community, not just the cuban community but the venezuelan community, nicaraguan community, feel about socialism and about communism. >> [inaudible]. >> he made more than a mistake. it is what he believes and it is unacceptable to our community. liz: with us now, florida republican senator rick scott. great to see you, senator. your reaction to all of this? >> don't you want bernie to keep talking? this is crazy. just think that people that got away from castro, got away from maduro in venezuela, got away from ortega in nicaragua will vote for this guy? castro is there because he kill ad lot of people. it was indoctrination. it is what it was. it wasn't literacy. indoctrinating, if you didn't go along with him he killed you. maduro kills peaceful protesters. that is what happens in socialism. it is death and it is squalor. talk about china, you have a million people in prison just because of their religion. and

kevin mccarthy said there would be no requests for offsets donna shalala, freshman, democratic representative from south florida. but she served for eight years as president clinton's health and human services secretary. she says when there was a public health crisis when she was in charge, she imposed something called, the quote shalala rule. listen. >> if you ask who the american people trust, that is why i always insisted on the people who spoke were docs that had white coats on. they were wormed class scientists physicians but they had white coats on, that would reassure. last thing you want is the president of the united states talking about science. >> republicans shot back that democrats are seizing on the coronavirus as a political issue. house minority leader kevin mccarthy quote, diseases don't know party lines. democrats can't help but put politics over country. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell accused his democratic countier parts of launching partisan political attacks at the white house instead of working together to get this done. >> i feel confident, mr. president, that

>> reporter: democrats say yes with donna shalala saying that i hope that senator sanders will speakme of my constituents before he sings the praises of a murderous tyrant like fidel castro. >> reporter: and the biden campaign is starting a campaign that sanders cannot be trusted. he is going to have a big townhall here on cnn and wolf, the next several days are so critical to bernie sanders and all of the democratic rivals. >> it is critical indeed. jeff zeleny, thank you very much. let's discuss with the political analysts, and gloria, sanders is impressive and how did he do it, and anyone out there right now capable of stopping him? >> well, it's -- well, the window is closing and closing. we will see what happens in south carolina. but i am just looking at a some of the numbers from nevada and it is so impressive the multi racial coalition that he had and all ages, but four years ago when he ran, his base of support was white voters. this time, in nevada, he won 51% of the hispanic voters, and increased the share of african-americans by 5%. he has a combination of whites who have

freshmen congresswoman debbie marsiel powell from florida who said it is unacceptable, and so did donna shalalang the pradzs of a tyrant murder. and so this is not the only problem causing consternation among the democrats. >> reporter: accusing the powerful pro israel lobbying group of providing a platform for bigotry and not attending the apac platform. i do not agree with them, and so i will not attend. and they shot back and saying that he has not attended anyway and he is insulting his very own colleagues and those americans who stand with israel and shameful. the heated exchange highlights the vermont's willingness to criticize israel more than any other presidential candidate has. >> it is not anti-semitism to say that the netanyahu government has been racist. >> reporter: sanders is the first jewish nominee from a major problem is advocating for a more even-handed approach for dealing with the israeli and palestinian conflict. >> what the american foreign policy has to be about is in the middle east is bringing the israelis and bringing the palestinians together. it cannot be simply be

. >> laura: donna shalala, former hhs secretary under bill clinton said this. >> here's a president that'sfiring scientists and weakening the scientific infrastructure of this country. now speaking on this disease? he should leave it the scientists and the heads of the public health agencies. the last thing you want is the president of the united states talking about science. >> laura: tell us, donna. senator, thoughts. >> a lot of these scientists have been around for decades and doing great work. ultimately these are policy questions and we elect a president to make policy decisions along with our elected representatives in congress. >> laura: senator, thanks much for joining us tonight. we really appreciate it. the center of the spread of the coronavirus has the military on high alert. officials have already confirmed one soldier stationed in south korea has contracted the disease and more than 1200 have been infected in south korea, up from just 51 people last week. last week there were 51. now there are 1200. just to give you a sense of how fast this could explode, there are now 59 am

but also by some democrats including florida member of congress donna shalala.e said i'm hoping that in the future senator sanders will take time to speak to some of my constituents before he decides to sing the praises of a murderous tyrant like fidel castro. so abby, the question is, will this be the type of scrutiny and will this raise questions for sanders? is this going to be the focus of the debate tomorrow night? south carolina, do you think? >> unquestionably, this is going to come up. probably at the debate tomorrow night and in the weeks and days moving forward, because one of the interesting things about this campaign has been the lack of focus on foreign policy relative to other domestic issues. and a lot of people are focused on sanders' view on medicare for all and other federal government spending. but less focused on his overall world view. and i think that that's something that is going to get more scrutiny frankly because it needs to get more scrutiny. i think all of the candidates need to be pushed more on their views on foreign policy. and i

donna shalala is not happy, okay? conor lamb is not happy. i would like to see us pander a little bit more and try to win the election. i'd actually like to -- i think we need some more pandering here, not less. we want to do things to be popular and to try to win. this is kind of a weird time in politics where it's more important to convince people that you've been right all of your life than you're going to win the election. i think you do what you can to win the election including declaring victory when you finish third. i kind of like that. >> is it fair to call this purity testing in your view? >> i don't want to say purity testing, but i think we've lost the instinct for politics. we've lost the instinct to try to build and hold a changing coalition, that somehow or another, we think it's more important that we have a bunch of true believers. i've said this before. i don't want to be in a cult. my daughter is in sororities and fraternities and stuff. that's cults. being a politician, it's a coalition. it's difficult. lawrence can tell y

. >> joining me now is donna shalala, also hhs secretary for the clinton administration. congresswoman, i want to let you know that i also have a pandemic expert onset with me. so we may bring her into the conversation. i want to get your temperature on this given your extensive experience. eight years as hhs secretary. how concerned are you with what you're seeing with coronavirus right now? >> i'm very concerned about our preparation. i'm not concerned about the knowledge of our scientists or the expertise that we have. we have world class scientists physicians in hhs, cdc, the public health service, the fda, and obviously the national institutes of health with tony fouchy and dr. collins, but our preparation includes making sure our states are ready and they have the infrastructure as well as our hospitals, and we've been defunding them for a very long period of time. >> yes. help us to understand that. i just threw out a bunch of numbers about how the entire pandemic response chain of command was gone as of 2018, nfc's global health security team. what exactly is the

i want to commend chairman frank pa lowell and congresswoman donna shalala for their leadership. the youth videotaping epidemic is a -- vapping jepped a public health emergency that threatens our youngsters. one in four high schoolers are using e-cigarettes and not just occasionally. more than a third of users in high school said that they were smoking e-cigarettes at least 20 days a month. my granddaughter, who is a high schooler, when i asked her about this, she said, it is everywhere. everyone is smoking e-cigarettes. last year, i hosted a hearing on youth vapping crisis in a subcommittee. as experts have said, the flavors are a key factor in this. many one out of -- seven out of 10 current e-cigarette users say they use them because, quote, they come in flavors i like. and nearly all or 97% use flavored e-cigarette in the past month. mango, mint, cotton candy are some of the 15,000 flavors still available thanks to the loophole laden action the trump administration took in january. the president made a promise in the oval office to the american families, to ban flavors, which

. >> reporter: cbs news learned that >> reporter: donna shalala a democrat representing parts of south florida is raising concerns about sanders comments about the late cuban district -- dictator fidel castro. >> it's unfair to say everything is bad. when fidel castro came into office you know what he did? he had a massive literacy program. is that a bad thing? >> now while the candidates are here today and tomorrow for the debate they are not going to spend all week in this state because as we mentioned there are 14 states holding contest just eight days from now on super tuesday. they will be going out to more than 1300 delegates on that day that's why they want to spend some time finding delegates in other parts of the country. >> they are leaving a lot of commercials. amazing leaving new york and the commercials. big world out there. thank you very much, ed. >>> congressman clyburn number three leader of the house democrats told us black voters need to stand up and be counted on saturday. why is black turnout so important? >> i think it's because the black community has, i think, t

a former designated survivor was in the room as well, congers woman donna shalala from florida.he was these designated wasivor in 1996 when she health and human services secretary under former president bill clinton. she said it was fun when she was designated survivor. she said she sat in the president's chair and bought pizza for her staff. host: john mcardle giving us information. we will talk about the state of the union, the iowa caucuses, and the impeachment vote sent to take place later today. if you want to call in this final hour of the program on these topics, (202) 748-8001 for republicans, (202) 748-8000 for ,emocrats, an independents (202) 748-8002. you can text us at (202) 748-8003. we have been showing numbers when it comes to the iowa caucus count. earlier this morning, we had a talk with aaron murphy of lee enterprises. he talked about the status of the information and what is being counted, and what it means for the iowa caucus. [video clip] >> the iowa caucus. they are up to 71%. we have not been given the exact details yet. the general feeling is we will get

donna shalala, we all are at risk with bernie sanders.i'm t a communist. side show we are watching. >> it is. first of all, amy klobuchar, it was interesting town hall. at times i think she thought she was on the senate floor because there were very long answers. and we were trying to get. ainsley: you are like this is tv. >> let's keep it moving. we have a lot of audience questions. in and she dealt with substance which is really what we are trying to do with town halls. ainsley: will she stay in all the way through the convention. >> i think super tuesday is a really determining fact for for her. obviously she has to win minnesota. you know, money starts to run out. brian: she has more than biden. let's talk about especially what we will be seeing on sunday that's doing extremely well getting a lot of traction on fox nation. >> called the unauthorized history of socialism. we have been working on it for a long, long time. it just so happens that bernie sanders is the leader as a democratic socialist. this goes back to the beginning. rea

donna shalala echoing that.ted with it last night in a town hall on cnn and didn't try to couch it at all's he repeated it saying the literacy program was good. his campaign manager said and he's right, bernie sanders is consistent on this. he lived it in the '70s, in the '80s, in the '90s. basically saying he's not going to lie about the way he feel. he's not a politician and voters have to make up their minds whether that consistency is a good thing or the fact you're praising dictators is disqualifying. that's up to the voters. >> i'm not sure how it will come out in the crosstabs here but i don't think ortega, castro a and -- heck, brezhnev will fare very well. >> we talked the last year or so about bernie sanders and his poll numbers. we keep saying there is a profound age divide. talking about folks who are under 45 years old, particularly under 30 years old. saw it in nevada. he got 66% in nevada under 30 years old. when you go to the other end of the age spectrum, folks who remember daniel ortega, the sa

just quoting donna shalala. bernie sanders keeps trucking out the scandinavian model. the scandinavian countries there are saying we don't have wealth taxes like you are saying. we don't have a minimum wage like you are saying. by the way, when he touts the castro cuba model and illiteracy, it was a reeducation program. he doesn't go first focus on the gulags where prisoners are still chained underground in cuba. he's trying to rebrand himself as a democrat socialist. we have to say china calls itself the peoples republic of china. north korea has a term democrat in the name of its country. so you know, i think that it's slipshod what his candidacy is. you will see a brokered convention because he doesn't have a majority of the vote. nancy pelosi is already saying i'm pushing back on bernie right there on that. stuart: one of these days you will tell us how you really feel. david nicholas, are you still there? real briefly, you tell me, are you worried that bernie sanders is now the frontrunner for the democrats and looks like he will get the nomination? >> yeah, i hav

our colleague donna shalala had your job mister secretary and in this blueprint for defense, what they did was they said we need to have, in case we have some kind of a pandemic, we need to have a clear line of authority make these decisions. are you aware of that mister secretary? >> i wasn't aware of the secretaries recommendation. >> are you aware of this blueprint ? >> i was aware of the blueprint. >> i just got back from japan on monday so we were really looking at the diamond princess incident . and here's what i was concerned about his you had all these people living in this petri dish of a ship for a long time. the cdc said that people, people should not be flown back to the us from that ship and then apparently the cdc was overruled by the state department so here's my question. you are the chairman of the president's task force on the novel coronavirus . are you in charge? >> i am in charge but in japan the chief of mission, he made the decision has full authority of the president of the united states in any foreign country. >> that's the problem. i'll tell you why that's the