joining us now, the host of the podcast, "on brand with donny deutsch," donny deutsch. >> donny!the big one. joe biden -- >> biden brand is down. the reason -- here's why. the numbers, the nbc poll says they're at 45, 55% underwater. because the messaging is right. if you look at the economy, where it's 3.6% employment, when you look at what east done with ukraine, with the coalition, the good news is not sticking to him. it doesn't stick, so there's something wrong with the message. his job is up, but the brand is done. trump brand down, no surprise. all you need to know, look at the gridiron speech that chris sununu, who basically is a 70% approval rating, governor of a purple state, coming out and saying he's effing crazy, and he said, i'm not saying he belongs in a mental institution, but if he ever went in, he's not coming out. that kind of thing, plus what's going on in georgia, kemp, 9% ahead perdue, who is the trump reflection, all you need to know is his brand. not only is it a purple state, it's the most important primary state. >> a lot will say he cost them that state

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also with us, host of the podcast "on brand" with donnie deutsche.before we go into on brand, your thoughts on elon musk. >> simple equation, i don't know, to me when the richest guy in the world taking over the most important social media platform, that is just not a winning formula to me. and it reminds me of dr. evil and gold finger would take over the media. and my tummy meter said there is something not great about this. >> and if someone could tell them not to re tweet old tweets and that would be good. and you're starting with right-wing populism. >> at the beginning of 2021, there were 17 right-wing pop list leaders and now there are down to 12. we have le pen and trump and putin losing on the big stage. the death -- you have talked about this throughout the show. death of democracy throughout the world has been greatly exaggerated and particularly what happened in france yesterday, 58.5% for macron, it looks like the world and your dad talked about this and david kennedy earlier in the show, democracy seems to be on a winning formula versus

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let's bring in donny deutsch. democrats are making this way too difficult.ially in the house, with people that talk about jewish lasers in california, and they talk about italian dudes using lasers to rig elections, and they talk about bamboo in ballots, that the chinese is putting bamboo in the ballots, and you have qanon conspiracy theory, and you have other members lying for kevin, rational members lying in normal circumstances, lying for kevin going it's very obvious, the tape, it was rigged. >> my god. >> and you have a republican, kemp, trump hated him so much, and kemp is humiliating his conspiracy opponent, david perdue, his pro trump opponent. you have loaded guns at the airports from republicans that keep getting arrested for bringing loaded guns to airports, and then you have this michigan civil war going on within the republican party. i think james carville is right again. don't make it harder than it should be. these people are out of their mind. they are crazy. they are kooks, and you don't want them in charge. even if you agree with them on s

folks at bloomberg, "washington post," saying same thing donny deutsch is saying when millionaires ownar "washington post" and bloomberg. only left-wing billionaires should own media outlets? >> precisely. that's what they think. misinformation is anything the left disagrees with, right? even president obama, the architect of the big lie, if you like your doctor you can keep him, the president obama of the party that covington catholic lie, the russia collusion hoax, over and over again, this information equals information that the left doesn't like. i think this exposes them in a way we've never yet seen before. if elon wants to make changes he need to start cleaning house. get the ceo, parag agrawal who said our role is not to be bound by the first amendment, get him out of there, fire the board if that is even possible, clean house when it comes to their leadership because nothing is going to change unless he does so. implement some of those technical fixes as well. elizabeth: you know what? you mentioned president obama. listen to former president obama on social media. let's hear

our good friend donny deutsch raised the issue of this new law on monday and what it could mean in theinto this sort of stew, the elon musk purchase of twitter. >> exactly. >> i think there's going to be a lot of folks in washington who are going to have an even brighter spotlight on big tech. this european law effectively allows them to take up to 6% of a company's revenue, of their revenue, if, in fact, they break the law. so, you have companies that are going to have to be on watch. by the way, hard to create a service that works in the u.s. one way and works in europe another way. that's the other piece of this. what happens there may come here, whether the companies like it or not. >> yeah. and i'll tell you what, peter baker, we've heard so many people wringing their hands saying, we want to reform big tech, we just don't know how. the europeans have shown us. the question is, will it stick in america? could this pass? >> well, i mean, look, you're not going to lose a bet in washington betting against congress getting its act together, right? i think the fact of the matter is the

also host of the podcast "on brand with donny deutsch" and creator of the fourth segment, donny deutsch about the fourth hour. >> you know what? they go down like fifth avenue and they stop in front of the magnavox store and all just stare. >> eugene, it is a joke you wouldn't understand. it is from like 1960. >> the problem is that it has added to truancy in new york city because it starts at 9:00 and kids aren't going to school until 10:00. >> i was explaining to mika when we were in congress and before we went to vote on the floor we would call each other and i would say, what are you wearing, jim in of? i'm wearing a sweater set and i would put one on. >> you guys look great today. >> so let's talk about what we all saw yesterday. as you know, because you have been talking about it, we have been through a pretty rough five or six years as a country, especially on issues of race. but yesterday we saw a black vice president who is a woman announce a vote to send a black judge to the united states supreme court, the first time ever. i'm just wondering, given all of the challenges we ha

also, donnie deutsche host of "the on brand" podcast, to help make sense of all this.e get to today? >> no, he -- he made a bid. he made a bid. that's pretty much, he's interested in the company. he's always been a big fan. he's a heavy user and uses it pretty well. he uses it all the time to market himself, to say things, to do memes, to troll, he's kind of the edge lord of twitter in a lot of ways. so he was interested in buying it. it's actually an opportunity because twitter stock is undervalued for a long time. largely because its business has met, its growth has been met it doesn't mean it couldn't be bigger. it's lagged behind all the internet stocks since it went public in 2013. and so i guess he saw an opportunity to do something. he bought the stake, he was on the -- he wasn't on the board, he was offered a seat on the board and decided probably he'd be better off shooting in than out i guess, i don't -- tweeting in than tweeting out. he wasn't allowed to because of all the rules, and he wasn't this charge the way he is at his other companies. >> so then he t

with the council on foreign relations, a "washington post" columnist, and with me at the table, donny deutsch, friend of the show. i want to start with you, caroline. your colleague, with some extraordinarily animated story telling about mitch mcconnell. i've actually never read of him describing himself as exhilarated, but at the idea of trump's political implosion, which he predicted would be the outcome of january 6th, he described himself as exhilarated. >> that's right, nicole, and you know, thanks to josh dossi and the two reporters at "the new york times," we know know ahead of when the january 6th committee holds its hearings in which we may learn some of the same material. now we're learning it in fresh realtime that immediately after january 6th's riot and the storming of the capitol, mitch mcconnell was elated, elated not about the riot. he actually was quite disgusted by the riot, as much reporting by all of us in washington revealed, but he was exhilarated that a president he had found impossible to deal with and was tolerating with clenched teeth for the last year of 2020, the l

. >>> and finally, a story, i believe, submitted to us by donny deutsch, a lawyer in florida filed af its burgers in images back in 2017, before that the suit claims the fast food claim more fairly advertised its food products. burger king and its parent company did not respond to msnbc's request for comment. yesterday it was the pop tart, they are not that fruity or something like that. if you have time in your day to sue burger king over the size of the whopper, it's time to get outdoors. >> try other food sources, like something more healthy. >> donny did in his new -- >> up and down. >> the brand up, brand down segment, which actually it was new and -- remember the delorean in '83, '84 it was brand down -- >> he had them up. >> he had airlines up through 2007, he was stubborn on that. front page of the daily news, so eric adams really taking this crime fight to other people in the city and, you know, explain to me, if you guys can, as a new yorker, jonathan lemire, eric adams wants to clean new york city up, wants to clean it up from all the crime. apparently, though, it says her

bring in the senior editor of "the dispatch," columnist for "the atlantic" and elise jordan and donny deutschild a wall. that was just a punch line in donald trump's speeches. you have lindsey, you have cornyn, all of these other republicans that when they had the chance said no, a wall is a stupid idea, it won't work. here you have reform tif politics in florida with a billion-dollar consequence. they're taking on the most beloved institution in the state of florida, and we just saw this in taxes. the texas governor trying to own the libs ended up costing the texas economy $4 billion. i have to say et, these are idiotic moves by people -- you have to learn the line between reformative politics and real costs for taxpayers. >> it's not just performative to cheers on the twitter crowd, it's especially in the florida situation, he's taking aim at disney but hitting the 1st amendment. look, it's been the law for a long time in this country that you can't administer -- you can't deny a benefit, a government benefit, based on punitive political retaliation. there's a case going back years, 1996, i