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donny deutsch," donny deutsch. music from dodie featuring the 8g band with fred armisen and now seth meyers. >> seth: good evening, i'm seth meyers, and this is "late night" and it's wednesday. let's get to the news. [ laughter ] the manhattan district attorney has reportedly convened a grand jury that is expected to decide whether to indict former president trump. god, imagine that arrest "you have the right to an attorney but as a friend, i wouldn't recommend it." former president trump said in his website today that his administration is the reason for low coronavirus cases, and successful vaccine rollout in the u.s. which is sort of like the captain of the hindenburg saying, "don't forget who got us off the ground." republican congressman marjorie taylor greene is facing criticism after tweeting the coronavirus vaccine passports and mask mandates are just like nazis forcing jewish people to wear a gold star it's the first time she's wanted people to be undocumented. a junior high principal in arkansas apologized recently after the school's yearbook featured a photo of former president donald trump with the caption, "president trump was not impeached. he also apologized for the claim that trump was too sweet to be forgotten. according to a new study, researchers believe that the maximum age a human could physically reach is 150-years-old. challenge accepted, said the u.s. senate. former baseball player alex rodriguez recently launched a line of concealer for men, and then men tried to put it on wedding rings. i tried to do the -- deliver it the way i feel jenny would have wanted me to [ laughter ] according to a new study, relocating wolves to areas with frequent car accidents caused by deer can reduce collisions by 24%. which almost makes up for the 3,000% increase in wolf attacks. [ laughter ] according to a recent survey, the average american believes they can survive for 16 days in the wilderness, adding, "wait, what's the wi-fi password? today is world redhead day, but then the sun came out, and they had to cancel. [ laughter ] and finally, according to a new report, poison control centers in the u.s. experienced a significant increase in marijuana related calls between 2017 and 2019, and they always started the same way "hello what's the emergency?" "hello who is this? "man, you called me. and that was a monologue we got a great show for you tonight. he was supposed to be here on march 12th, 2020, but we canceled that show, went into quarantine, and now we are thrilled that he is back our friend john krasinski will be here in studio in this chair right next to me our first chair guest. his film "a quiet place part ii" will finally premier in theaters this friday, may 28th. and he's an msnbc regular, and host on the podcast "on brand with donnyudio. and her debut album "build a problem" is out now. we have music from english singer/songwriter dodie. so we've got a great show. before, though, we get started, red nose day, the annual campaign to end child poverty, is back. children who needed our help before the covid-19 health crisis, need our help now more than ever. people can support the cause by going to rednoseday.org to donate and get their own digital red nose to share on social to help spread the word and they can tune in to nbc's red nose day thursday night at 8:00 p.m moving on everybody, the prosecutor in a criminal investigation of donald trump's business dealings has convened a grand jury that could decide whether to indict trump or executives at his company. for more on this, it's time for "a closer look." ♪ >> seth: for the four years of trump's presidency, we kept hearing about the possibility that trump could maybe, potentially, hypothetically face some eventual legal consequences there was the mueller report

donny deutsch," donny deutsch, and with fordham university, christina grier. the bbc's katty kay still with us, as well. so we've been talking about this bombshell story in "the new york times" this morning, joe, about the justice department under donald trump and what it did, the lengths to which it went to secure these records. apple was under a gag order until just recently, which is why these members of congress and their families have now been told that their records, were, in fact, subpoenaed by the justice department. >> kasie hunt, i've got to believe. i was talking about this last hour. i've got to believe even some republicans on the hill, who actually have read the constitution and understand what article i of the institution means and understand madisonian checks and balances and how important those are and see themselves set apart as a separate and equal branch from the executive branch find it hard to believe that republicans aren't just as concerned and disturbed by this as a lot of democrats. i can tell you, when i was up there, oh, my god, if something he chairman, the chairwoman, the leaders would have torn to shreds a president in their own party if there had been an investigation against that president and then the president decided to use his justice department to start seizing records and to spy on. it sounds -- i mean, it sounds beyond nixonian to me. >> you're absolutely right, joe. and one of the ways in which congress has changed, you know, in my view, for the worst, just because it has really changed the way our separation of powers is supposed to work, congress has said, we don't want to make tough political decisions, we'll give thal power to the white house, they can do that, boths on issues like syria and things like that, they decided they want to deal with it. i don't know you'll see any republicans in this case come out and criticize the former president in any way, even though, i am sure that they actually do feel that way. this is unbelievable. and it goes back to the creation of the senate select intelligence committee and the house intelligence committee and the church committee investigation into how nixon was using the federal government against american citizens. and the idea that the justice department would be getting records from these members while they were actually conducting an investigation is beyond the pale. i've already heard from a number of members in the last 12 hours or so, since this story first came out, saying, i'm sorry, what?! and to go unknown for so many years, quite frankly, because of what they did with apple. it's just incredibly remarkable. but the reality is, i'll be surprised if the investigation into this is significantly bipartisan if you start to see substantial criticism. we'll see, maybe they'll surprise us, but i've said that before and never been surprised, joe. >> mike barnicle, draw parallels with watergate? this sounds like something that john mitchell would have tried to do. i'm not so sure that even he would have been allowed to get what it. but again, let's just -- the article i branch is investigating the article ii branch. the article ii branch spice on the article i branch. and not just generally, but explicitly the very people who are investigating the president. are there any precedents there? >> joe, i had an interesting conversation yesterday with the members of the united states senate and the first question raised was, it makes you wonder. this particular action makes you wonder what else is there that we don't know about. the second point, this member of the senate raised is, why has not the bar association begun some sort of action against bill barr. not just for his involvement in this action, but also what he did in trying to distort the mueller report. and the third point raised was clearly, the former president, who is either in mar-a-lago or in new jersey today, we don't know. and i don't care, the former president clearly, his admiration for vladimir putin and putin's behavior extended itself into what he wanted the justice department to do, which is basically helping to create a police state. >> so, let me ask you, christina grier, what do do, as a country now, when we continue to see these stories, barack obama, obviously, aggressively went after reporters in leak investigations. the associated press and other outlets. donald trump did the same thing, and now donald trump going after, again, a separate but equal branch. i understand the importance of leak investigations, but so many lines continue to be crossed. and we can either talk about checks and balances or we can talk about the first amendment possibly being violated by these investigations. what's our way forward, to make sure that this administration and the next don't feel like they have carte blanche to do this. >> right, well, joe, you know, you keep saying that you're hoping these members read the constitution, but you have to remember, we had a president for four years who bragged about the fact that he did not read. and sadly, far too many republicans followed that lead and they refused to read about history, they refused to read the federalist papers, federalist 51 that walks us through separations of power and checks and balances, there was a disdain and lack of respect for the rule of law and to mike's point, i'm extending the biden administration just a small element of grace, largely because they don't know exactly what they're walking into. each day, they discover something new about the previous administration and how they worked to erode or erase our democratic principles. moving forward, i'm hoping that merrick garland and his department of justice, will do a full audit of what happened under the tenure, not just of jeff sessions, who many democrats thought was the worst thing of the 21st century, but bill barr, who then came in. each person who replaced the last was just even worse. so i'm hoping that joe biden and merrick garland will come up with some sort of plan and put some stopgaps in place so we never see this again. we cannot have a u.s. president that sides with our adversaries. we cannot have a justice department who feels like they should work for the president and not the american people. we cannot have a full wing of our democratic republic, a full party that only works for the president. and we haven't even touched the supreme court and the courts throughout the country. so, sadly, we're in a point where we're excavating all of the things that donald trump did over the past four years and all of the people he was able to corrupt and how they so quickly fell in line. i'm hoping that joe biden is really taking stock as he finds out more and more each week about his predecessor. >> katty kay is with us and has a question for donnyy? >> okay, donny, you study people and trends and how people respond to things. we've had so many incidents kurg the trump presidency where the world was kind of shocked by what donald trump was doing. and i just wonder whether you think people are going to look at this story, which is clearly, you know, gets at the very heart of what the democratic experience is, an independent judiciary and the rule of the law, and the freedom of the press, as well. and whether people will say, this is a reminder of how terrible this was, we must always protect our constitutions. or whether people will look at this and say, donald trump, he's down in mar-a-lago, we don't want to think about him anymore, and we know he did crazy things. >> the answer is january 6th. if you've got republicans who are willing to overlook january 6th, a literal, physical attack on our country. and the majority of republicans who think the election was not a legitimate election, this is something they can overlook very,

donnie braco. >> this is donnie, a friend of mine. >> don't just stand there and look dangerous. >> oh, he does look dangerous, doesn't he? come on, bruno. >> now, this ain't a movie. here's what's key about the actual case. pomeranz appealed the real world situation, the client's conviction there, and forced courts to effectively change the legal definition of racketeering, which had been used to prosecute organized crime figures. now, pomeranz has defended some of new york's highest profile defendants. he knows exactly how it looks on both sides of the table, which means he may have some idea of the kind of hard ball, tough defenses that a trump organization might try to bring out if they do face indictments this year. >> sam waxel and society friend of martha stewart. his attorneys, mark pomeranz, argue that mr. waxel should have an easier sentence. >> his conviction on insider trading overturned by an appeals panel of judges. >> eliot spitzer will not face criminal charges for his role in a prosecution scandal. >> new york's accidental governor, david paterson, says the criminal probe of his activities is continuing. >> so mr. pomeranz is someone you'd want to defend you, although right now he's not available for the trump org because he's investigating them. he also in that investigation has reportedly been involved in these high-stakes michael cohen interviews, so that's a lot. then the other clue, the d.a. has also tapped gary fishman as an assistant attorney general coming from new york attorney general letitia james' office who's been collaborating on this case. now, fishman is a white collar investigator who has done some very big cases, including aggressively pursuing evidence in these high-stakes financial crimes cases where the banks of all the money in the world for their defense but he won a $100 million mortgage fraud case, exposed a multimillion dollar charity theft, then exposed law breaking by one of the world's largest banks leading to a record-setting $536 million fine. >> $536 million settlement with credit suisse represents the largest sanctioned settle meant in the history of the treasury department. >> new york city prosecutors have charged 13 people with running a mortgage scam. they say the defendants bilked homeowners and banks out of more than $100 million. >> he was arrested for money laundering, grand larceny and conspiracy. he allegedly pocketed the cash, more than a million dollars. >> those are big legal victories. they led to a previous new york attorney general tapping him to head the state's criminal enforcement and financial crimes bureau. so this is the prosecutor now working to try to flip, well, someone who may or may not allegedly have been involved in financial improprieties. the money man, the c. f o, allen weisselberg, of the trump organization. you take it together and see what the d.a. has his eye on. two heavyweight lawyers working on the trump organization criminal probe. one, an expert in organized crime, how the mafia rolls. the other an expert in financial crime, what people do in those secret board rooms to steal money which affects everyone but you might never hear about it. and most importantly to the d.a. and most concerningly for the trump organization these aren't just experts. they have a track record of winning, even tough cases against very tough defendants. i want to say what i've told you before because we're looking at a very intriguing caseload here, but we don't know where it goes. it's always possible that hiring aggressive and fair prosecutors they don't think there's the evidence and there might be no charges this year. but when a d.a. brings in these kind of outside legal ringers, people like pomeranz and fishman, it's because they think they have a strong case to make. this is something we've been reporting on but it's also something i just want to give you a clear view here that's pretty much in the legal mainstream. if you're just doing ordinary cases, you don't bring in the ringers. here's how legal expert dan abrams put it on "the beat." >> i think it's one of the least discussed issues and that was the hiring of mark pomeranz. that immediately tells me this is much more serious than the past investigation of the trump organization. you don't bring pomeranz into the office full time unless you've already got a lot. >> you don't bring in the ringers unless you have something for them to do. so what's it all mean? well, we have a very special guest. doj veteran matt miller when we're back in just 60 seconds. r n we're ba in just 60 seconds. ewar r spending is trending. just ask overly confident diy rashida rashida: wait, was this the right wall? or last minute gift shopping rashida rashida: i'm putting a bow on it! wow. even sneaking away for a vacay rashida. rashida: shhh! i've earned this? from home improvement, drugstores, select travel and more earn 5% cash back that automatically adjusts to your top eligible spend category, up to $500 spent each billing cycle. come here! i've got big news! now, nurtec odt can not only stop a migraine it can prevent a migraine as well. nurtec is the first and only option proven to treat and prevent migraines with one medication. onederful. one quick dissolve tablet can start fast and last. don't take if allergic to nurtec. the most common side effects were nausea, stomach pain, and indigestion. with nurtec, i treat migraine my way. what's your way? ask your doctor about nurtec to find out! >>> joining me now is a veteran of the obama justice department, matt miller. thanks for being here. >> good to see you, ari. >> what do you take from the d.a. tapping these two experts? >> you know, i think you're right that it's a sign that he has a very strong case. the way i read it is he's trying to make sure that his strong case is actually a bulletproof case. i think any time you're faced with something like a decision about indicting a former president, as the district attorney cy vance is facing, obviously you want to make sure you have the strongest case possible. it's no normal case by any stretch of the imagination. but you think of what it means to indict this former president. you know that donald trump is going to launch an unprecedented legal and political and personal assault not just on you but on the prosecutors in your office who are charged with bringing that case to trial. after january 6th, you have to worry about the personal safety of the people in your office. it's unbelievable that we have to say it, but if you're the head of the office, you have to think of that. so this isn't a regular case where you might take a case that you believe in but you're not 95% sure that you're going to win. it's a marginal case. you believe the defendant is guilty, there may be some problems with the evidence but you're going to go trial and see what happens. this is one that if you're going to put your office through the real hell that it will be to bring this case against donald trump, you want to make sure it's bulletproof. i think by bringing those two prosecutors onboard, two veteran prosecutors, they're not just trying to build -- to make sure it's as strong an investigation as possible, but to tell cy vance before he makes a decision to seek an indictment this is a case that you can win. >> fascinating. one of the reasons i wanted to get your views on all of this is you worked at the upper echelons of the doj but with a knowledge of the building, so you know as i do that some of the most feared prosecutors are not national household names. but potential defendants know their names. the mafia keeps track of them, the banks keep track of them. that's who we're seeing in who the d.a. has tapped here. here's a little bit of mark pomeranz discussing how he even wanted to get into prosecution. take a look. >> as a law clerk back in new york for a district judge, seeing the cases that come before the court, it was obvious that the people who were having the most fun were the assistant u.s. attorneys. the satisfaction comes not from getting long jail sentences, at least it shouldn't come from getting long jail sentences, but seeing that the right result was reached. >> matt, not everyone looks at it as a ton of fun. but he's actually being pretty candid there. when he says right result, this is something we've heard from people like andrew weissmann and people who have some zeal about busting wrongdoing. so when you look at the trump organization, which again, innocent until proven guilty, but it faces a ton of allegations of improprieties, the d.a. would seem to have people here in these two lead prosecutors who really care and are willing to put their neck out there in ways as you just said that might be think twice about your life and family but because they're so zealous about what they might think the evidence requires for the right result. >> yeah, look, i think there are two things at play here. yes, i think that's obviously right that they wolf to involve yourself in this case it's because you believe donald trump has committed a crime and you want to see the right result done for the american people. and prosecutors will -- look, let's be honest, they'll make a decision about whether to indict on this case based on the facts of this case. but let's not pretend that prosecutors aren't aware that everything else a defendant has done when they bring these cases. they may bring donald trump on charges of tax fraud or bank fraud or insurance fraud, but they're aware of the fact that donald trump was basically found by a federal investigation to have committed obstruction of justice and never was charged with a crime, won't be charged with a crime in that case. but prosecutors are aware of the vast landscape of the evidence when they're thinking about a defendant that they want to go after or not. i will say the second part of it, you heard it in his interview, there are people in these cases that they do love that they can be a bit of adrenaline junkies. this is a big case. for someone like mark pomeranz who's had a brilliant career in the legal world, this is obviously a career capper if you bring this case and win it. >> depending on where they go, this could be the biggest case in american history, literally. we're almost out of time, matt. when the zoom era finally ends and you do rejoin us in physical studios as we hope you do, will you be able to adjust to our newsroom studios, which are not nearly as nice or impressive as your law library right there? 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donny deutsch. donny, it's actually good. >> it's actually good. >> put that on the poster. >> we've got hunter biden on this week. really interesting stuff. >> i've been watching and listening. >> i appreciate that. i like that. you know, there was no even, no mini dig in there. it was very sweet. >> msnbc political analyst, eugene robinson joins us. and "new york times" reporter and msnbc national security analyst, michael schmidt is with us. he's the author of the book "donald trump versus the united states: inside the struggle to stop a president." let's get back to what former vice president mike pence said last night to new hampshire's hillsborough county republicans about the january 6th attack on the capitol. >> january 6th was a dark day in the history of the united states capitol. but thanks to the swift action of the capitol police and federal law enforcement, violence was quelled, the capitol was secured. and that same day, we reconvened the congress and did our duty under the constitution and the laws of the united states. >> president trump and i have spoken many times since we left office. and i don't know if we'll ever see eye-to-eye on that day. but i will always be proud of what we accomplished for the american people over the last four years. [ applause ] and i will not allow democrats or their allies in the media to use one tragic day to discredit the aspirations of millions of americans. >> so secretary johnson, there was a lot of yes, but. yes, it was a dark day, but i'm not going to let democrats and radical leftists discredit four years of what we accomplished. he said, yes, president trump and i don't see eye to eye about what happened, but, and moving on very quickly, of course, as we pointed out very quickly, mike pence was one of the targets of the attacks on the capitol. hang mike pence were the chants. what do you make of the posture, of not just the vice president, but republicans who didn't vote for a january 6th commission and large swath of this country that doesn't want to look back on that terrible day? >> i believe that the tone of the former vice president's remarks is a real disservice to the public. you listen to the tenor of it, some people did some bad things, we put a stop to it, we did our jobs and i move on to my applause line. what happened on january 6th was the very definition of an insurrection. it was an attack on the cradle of our democracy, in the midst of a constitutional function. i regret that in the vote last week on the january 6th commission legislation, a lot of people decided to support and defend their political interests rather than the constitution. this is a matter of national security and public safety. what happened on january 6th exposed some real scenes and cracks in the command and control relationships between the capitol police, the national guard, the secret service that need to be investigated. regrettably, that's not going to happen. i did some research the other day and looked up the senate vote for the 9/11 commission, it was 90-8. that's a lot of democrats, that's a lot of republicans. imagine if the 9/11 commission legislation never happened because some republicans were worried about embarrassing the bush administration because it happened on their watch? that didn't happen. there was obviously the larger national interest in studying the event and regrettably, that looks as if it's not going to happen here. and i think that's a real disservice to the country. >> i keep going back to what general powell say, secretary colin powell said when he was on the show. he said, what we were saying at home and what we were watching and i'm sure what every american was saying that actually cared about this country. and that is where the hell are the police? where the hell is the national guard? where the hell are the reinforcements? why is this mob allowed to go through and put lies of members of congress and their staff in danger, beat the hell out of police officers, and we're all just helplessly watching it on tv. and yet you have republicans in the united states senate that don't want us to know the answers. it is shocking, by any measure. >> we'll never know about that three hours that it took trump to bring in the national guard. look i've sad this many times, the republican party has become the party of stupid in terms of they're just playing a losing hand at this point. but they've also abandoned the last bastion of they're not the law and order party anymore. they can't own law and order. i know a few people have talked about this already, but if you're not going to investigate a policeman being killed and police being beaten -- >> with an american flag -- >> with an american flag, you don't own -- not only do democrats own health care and a covid relief bill, you can't even -- you guys talked how there's no ideology behind this party anymore. and the last bastion of conservatism, the things you ticked off are gone, are also law and order. they lost that. and to me, if i was a democratic strategist right now, i would make that a centerpiece, because that just rips out the last bastion of anything that that party stands for. >> especially since day talked about that throughout the 2020 campaign. and to talk about that throughout the campaign 2020 and talking about supporting our police officers and watching our officers getting their heads jammed in doors or being beaten and brutalized within inches of their death. talking about weeping still on television how they're never going to see their children again and they want to protect these trump supporters? do what you want, but don't tell me you give a damn about police officers or you give a damn about law and order, because they simply don't. mike schmidt, so republicans aren't going to do their job in congress. what is, get us updated on the fbi and also what's happening with a lot of these people that are being pulled into court. we're noticing some are not getting the stiff sentences that at least if you look at what the statute says about the conspiracy to commit sedition, they're not getting some of the stronger sentences that we would expect. >> so in a larger sense, we're almost six months here into this new justice department, which has had to grapple with the insurrection, all of these different cases, cases that include low to high-level charges and a justice department that has to clean up a lot of stuff that's left over from the trump administration. whether that is dealing with an array of lawsuits like the john bolton lawsuit and the investigation of john bolton. whether that's dealing with how the disclosure of documents related to the mueller investigation. you've seen the justice department having to still be the justice department and still clean up these issues that were left over from trump. and not everything that has come out of that has pleased the left or has pleased regular sort of government critics and such. whether it's the issue that you were pointing out on the insurrection or issues related to these document fights over the mueller investigation and what is going to come out about that. and what you see is the justice department grappling with how much sunlight to shine on these things like documentses that would explain how bill barr decided to say whether donald trump broke the law or not. and the institutional prerogatives of justice department lawyers to have discussions about how they make decisions. and not all of that has been satisfying to folks that want more and more information and more and more accountability coming out of trump. and i think we will continue to see that in the months to come, as they weed through a range of different things, including informing members of the media about actions taken against them. >> jim robertson, this is all part of a different thread, the defeat of the january 6th commission. it's all about donald trump's hold on the republican party. we know that we're going to hear from him this weekend as he returns to the rally stage. and he's been telling people there's a chance he could be restored to office this summer. a few republicans who do not support the president have said to me optimistically that they think if trump starts saying things like that, that joe biden will be removed from office and he'll come back in. that that could be a moment that could finally lead some others republicans to walk away from him. that would be the bridge too far. what do you think? >> how many bridges too far have we crossed? >> right! >> how many in the last five or six years have we crossed? no. that's not going to end donald trump's hold on the republican party. the republican party is a cult right now. it is a cult of trump. and that's where the base is and as long as the base is there, that's where the officials are going to be. so if this is a party that, you know, is -- that kicks out -- kicks liz cheney out of leadership, it's not a conservative party. it stands for no principles, as donnydoesn't stand for law and order, if it doesn't even want to bother to investigate the capitol insurrection. it's plainly and simply a cult. and that's the way it's going to be for the foreseeable future. i don't see what's going to change that, but i certainly don't think that the switch is going to be flipped, because donald trump says something crazy. because guess what, donald trump says something -- you know, how many millions of crazy things has drrp donald trump said that causes us all to shake our heads and say, this will be it. this won't be it. >> we'll see. the biden administration is ramping up its response to cyber attacks after a recent wave of hacks crippled several major companies. u.s. officials tell nbc news that the white house is looking to treat these attacks as national security threats, using intelligence agencies to spy on hacking groups and considering cyber responses of their own. nbc news national correspondent miguel almaguer reports. >> reporter: the controv

donny deutsch. kim is still here. donny years later, those shootings went up 183%, deaths went up 230% and it's been proven statistically that 70% of the deaths that have come in these mass shooting could have been avoided if this assault -- if these assault weapons were illegal. i would love this judge to sit with one of the parents from parkland or sandy hook and talk to them about this ruling. so, shame on you, reprehensible, disgusting. compared assault weapons to a swiss arm knife, and so, this is a judge that's not playing with all cards to begin with. and to just do this, to just outright lie about the vaccine and causing deaths, you know, this is donald trump legacy. if a president can lie 20,000 times, a federal judge can lie -- i mean, a state judge can lie, and i think it speaks for itself. look, there are bad cops, bad ad guys, bad doctors, bad lawyers, bad judges, and certainly this judge is one of them. >> it reminds me, though, that judges were the thing that mitch mcconnell blew up the filibuster for, the nu

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