romney campaign says emphasis is telephone calling and door knocking. compared to 2008 campaign, more than 20 times the number of households have been visited by a romney volunteer. across the country, it's lots of phone calls and lots of door knocking. romney campaign has not put as much money in the infrastructure but obama campaign put $30 million a month to get ready for the ground game. republican emphasis has been last week and they are still gearing up for it. >> shep: carl, thanks. >> it's one of the last report on jobs that we'll get before the election. it is in and we'll show you where we stand. plus an appeals court ruling on cannot buy handguns. the nra is not pleased with this one. that is and much more news on politics tonight from the journalists of fox news on a thursday fox report. >>. >> shep: mixed bag of economic reports and they suggest the recovery is moving along at a snail's pace. fewer americans filed for jobless benefits which is great. that fell below 375,000 and experts say that is sign that employers are hiring again. we're

you have to be in a different universe if you haven't received voter contact, phone call or door knock voters like lisa rogers is annoyed and she has stopped answering the phone. >> i'm just ready to vote. >> through the personal attention, there is no doubt in mind of anyone in buckeye state that his or her vote counts. >> ohio is very, very important. >> we're all intensely aware here. >> now for all of you voters in the battleground states there is a way to make the phone calls and the door knocking stop. vote early. the campaigns are tracking with such details that within a couple dives the volunteers know you cast your ballot, you are a done deal and you go blissfully back to the status of unimportant. bret? >> bret: that is key. mike tobin in columbus. thank you. what if no state decides the election? really? what if there is a tie in the electoral college? what happens then in chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel has the answers. >> in a close presidential race, one possible scenario is electoral tie. the battle over the 11 in yellow could go either way and that could

they say that's six times more phone calls, and 11 times more door knocks than four years ago. >> wereal energy on our side, and we're going to keep it up. >> reporter: in northern virginia, julie carey, news4. >>> the search for two missing over. the wife of one of the missing men tells news4 the two have been found and are alive and a helicopter is going to pick them up. the two men went hiking in glacier national park in montana last week. they were reported missing on friday when they missed their flight home. >>> the high school student accused of stabbing a classmate this morning in school. his name is shadat turewali, he's 18 years old, accused of stabbing a 15-year-old student in the leg with a knife. the two reportedly had been in an argument last week. that student has been taken into custody. the victim is expected to be okay. >>> the d.c. department of public works is getting ready for the winter. they held a meeting today to talk about their snow removal plans. public works officials say it's ready with new trucks and bigger plows designed to remove more snow. the d.c. a

hasn't, where you put your dollars, where you send your mail, where you do your phone calling and door knockingso if i know you've already voted the first week of october i'm not going to send you a piece of direct mail three days before the election. it would be a useless exercise. >> reporter: and in a close campaign, scott, no campaign wants to spend much time or money on anybody other than that small group of voters known as persuadables, the ones who will be getting a lot of attention over the next five weeks. >> pelley: the election already under way. dean, thanks very much. another state that could go either way is colorado. and the candidates are preparing for the first presidential debate in denver tomorrow. mitt romney is trailing far behindn fr latino voters, and he made news on illegal immigration today. back in june, president obama announced that he would not deport illegal immigrants who came here as children with their parents. well, today romney told the "denver post": >> pelley: jan crawford is covering the romney campaign. jan, that's new. >> reporter: well, scott, this marks

of door knocking, teaching -- >> called the vision of the tree of life. >> reporter: and community service. >> i am a mormon. >> i'm a mormon. >> reporter: mormons have never been so visible. while mitt romney's presidential candidacy may have ushered in a mormon moment in this country, the church remains largely a mystery to those outside of the faith. >> elder dustin. >> i'm sorry. >> elder dustin. >> elder? >> yes, sir. right here on my name tag, if that helps. >> it does. >> reporter: elder is a church term for the missionaries, though at age 21 and 20, they are anything but old. >> i like your hat. >> reporter: they are serving on a mission in la mras, louisiana, a long way from home in utah. >> i didn't know too much about it. people would tell me, you're going to have jambalaya and gumbo. i'm like, what is that? i don't know what is that. >> reporter: the church determines, they believe with devine guidance, where missionaries are placed. mitt romney served in bordeaux, france, where he has said he learned about rejection, trying to convince the french to give up wine. >> we're miss

direct media buys, in addition to grassroots door knocking, et cetera. we are happy to come back on a monthly basis. i appreciate the feedback on a realistic time line. based on them getting the rates under them it will take more than 30 days to come back with the plan but hopefully you can feel comfortable if you limit how we roll out the task, we can do that then come back. laugh co. has asked us to come back with what the outreach and education strategy will be and mayor's office has asked us to come back and present. there's lots of interest on how to roll this out. we will need additional support to come up with that plan. >> if i understand you properly, you are suggesting that what would be most useful is for the 100,000 increment to be approved. at this stage it would be premature to decide upon what if any surveying we need to do next? >> i do. i think we are not ready to do polling. the question is where and how. i think the strategy will determine are we going to target the private sector and businesses or larger scale or target and do polling

and the competition for door- knocks and one-on-one contact here is intense.y ginnebaugh is brown county democratic party chairman. >> we had a huge canvass the last two weekends, knocking on doors, talking with people. we have just been working really hard to identify the people that we know are sort of on that fence, haven't committed, maybe have voted republican in the past or have voted democratic in one election and republican another time. we see there's this ying yang sort of thing going on and were trying... >> reporter: ying yang? here in green bay? >> yeah, yeah. even here in green bay. right. >> reporter: in fact, this is the main reason for all this attention here: confuscious would say: yin-yang american political strategists see it as bush-obama because wisconsin had the most counties in the nation to vote for george bush in 2004 and then switch to barack obama in 2008. brown county was one of them. but then it swung back to republican scott walker for governor in 2010. the question is what next? st. norbert college political scientist wendy scat

the campaign is coming down to science -- numbers-crunching, door-knocking, message-crafting science.nd that extends to politics at every level, including a critical group of tight senate races. at this point does anyone really know what is going to dies -- decide all this, gloria? >> no. [laughter] look, it's coming coup -- down to a smaller and smaller group of undecided voters. if you ralk -- talk to republicans, the karl rove theory is that this late in the race, undecided rote -- voters will go to the challenger. if you talk to workers for president obama they say that's not the case. others say they might just stay home and decide not to vote. what you saw in those clips you were just showing it the candidates making their closing arguments because in the end after all the negative ads, which i think at this point probably cancel each other out and it's just a lot of noise out there right now, it comes down to a matter of trust. what -- who do you trust? whose character do you really believe in? and overall whose opt tism -- optimism do you kind of buy into? >> we have heard mit

>> if anything, it's the door to door knocking we're seeing that people are saying, oh, you actually care. >> do you believe nevada demographically impossible for romney to win? >> demographically impossible for him to win. >> that's what i keep hearing. >> i will go with truly shameless and say my mother's birthday is tomorrow. happy birthday. i'm her won and only son. if i forgot, i'd be in real trouble. >> happy birthday to mary elle listen elizabeth. a good friend of mine major tom kennedy was killed in afghanistan by a suicide bomber. we set up a charity. it's called kennedy's angels. we've raised over $400,000. it's a great cause. >> okay. thank you to our shortened panel here. tomorrow on the show, we're going to have the brand new battleground polls for you. the midwestern test. coming up next, chris jansing. bye-bye. mom? who's mom? i'm the giants mascot. the giants don't have a mascot! ohhh! eat up! new jammin jerk chicken soup has tasty pieces of chicken with rice and beans. hmmm. for giant hunger! thanks mom! see ya! whoaa...oops! mom? i'm ok. grandma? hi sweetie! she ope

>> reporter: if you're one of the battleground states, you're tired of door knocking and tired of phonere is way to make it stop. vote early. the tracking is so specific within a couple of days the campaigns learn you're a done deal and they will stop spending money to contact you. martha? martha: if you're not in one of those states where i live in new jersey, you have absolutely no idea whether anyone knows you're going to vote or not vote. mike, thank you very much. what a different tale from state to state. mike tobin. bill: "america's newsroom" will be live there on monday. we're going back to ohio, the third time in three months. we're taking hamilton county on, that is cincinnati, southwestern corner of the state. you will hear from voters and ohio newsmakers only days before the big vote. that is monday morning 9:00 a.m. eastern time. when you have here is eight days away, we'll be here live. governor john kasich will be with us. senator robb portman will be with us as well. they will be able to tell us whether or not romney can flip the state. whether or not he can take it from

. >> if you are in the battle ground states and the door knocking to stop there's a way to do it votelot within a couple days they will know you are a done deal and they will stop spending the money to contact you. >> good advice. 19 after the hour. still ahead we are hours away from the weekly jobless claims and if you are one of those folks looking for work cheryl casone is here to help you get a job. >> it is hard to up stage the president of the united states. two kids did just that. can you find them? bill, an identity thief who stole mary's identity, took over her bank accounts and stole her hard-earned money. now meet jack. after 40 years, he finally saved enough to enjoy retirement. angie, the waitress at jack's favorite diner, is also enjoying his retirement. with just a little information, she's opened up a credit line, draining the equity in jack's home. unfortunately, millions of americans just like you learn all it may take is a little misplaced information to wreak havoc on your life. this is identity theft, and no one helps stop it better than lifelock. see, ordinary cr

>> reporter: if you live in one much these battleground states, you want the door knocking, want phone calls to stop, there is a way to do it. the vote early. the track something so specific, that the campaigns will know you voted and stop spending money to contact you. jenna? jenna: sounds like a good tip, mike, thank you. jon: well, hollywood lending a little glamour to the presidential race. coming up the roles celebrities are playing in politics here and whether star power really sways votes jon: hollywood is lending some glamour to the political campaigns. a-list celebrities putting fail to work, doing voiceovers, giving endorsements, holding fund-raisers for the person they want to see in the white house but how much impact do hollywood stars have on the election? can they sway your vote? william la jeunesse live in los angeles with a look at that william? >> reporter: the president himself put it this way when oprah decides she likes you than other people like you too. voters pattern where they shop and wear celebrity endorsement lends credibility and validates the vote. others

but working on closing a three week get-out-the-vote blitz with will months of phone calls and door knock teams headed out and a massive increase in the air and war tv advertising and now added $12 million a week in ads on top of what is an absolute barrage here. florida is the number one state in the country for ads and 166 million has been spent here on commercials. obama, romney, democrat party and republican party and the super pac's on both sides. ohio comes in second at $160 million but it is a smaller state in terms population. >>shepard: the florida media market is so expensive with the big markets down there, miami, tampa, orlando. now the next debate is all about phone policy. the candidates will continue to battle outside of the back-and-forth over the attack in libya that let our ambassador and three others dead, the president has repeatedly defended his foreign policy decisions including the ones to end the war in iraq and the killing of the top terrorists including osama bin laden and governor romney has accused the president for apologizing for america. wendell is on this s

the momentum is picking up, the number of people showing up for door knocks is increasing.number of people showing up at our phone banks is increasing. the number of people out leafleting in the neighborhoods are increasing and i think they are going to reject his hypocrisy -- romney's hypocrisy and they are going to elect the man who stood with them when they needed it and elect president obama for a second term. >> chris, what do you sense on the ground? >> i can tell you right here in cleveland, one of ohio's cities, there's tens and thousands of jobs that are directly tied to the automobile industry right here in cleveland. the president mentioned two towns right here in ohio. toledo and lordstown. 80 other counties out of the 88 have some part of the american automobile industry that provide good, honest jobs for ohioans. those four words let ohio -- let detroit go bankrupt. those four words will haunt mitt romney for the remaining days and great states like ohio matter. it's not just my opinion. it's not great labor leaders like richard trumka's opinion. if detroit we

door to door knocking type organizing. that is boots and the ground it. a man. they seem to be labor intensive. the next call comes from how the air. >> could the morning. yes, i think that it will be very important if following burst candid and to opinions and the human rights. of course, being the right to life. the right to belief,. the the is extremely important. and it will be he missed tonight, and excited the crunches. t were so very arraignments. goodbye. >> off i think there is a sentiment talking about a washington, i think is the presence as a prayer or a kid are pretty starkly laid up. >> before we let you go, sandy has to the east coast with a going into the particulars about how big the storms are or when it is heading to hit. what kinds of plants are we making to make sure the continued operations in north carolina? >> it will not have a huge impact of the journal's carolina. the coastal areas is at least populated area of the state. it is i have an effect of it was populated areas. it will be a rainy day and the northwest with it today. i

with door knocks, phone calls and social media outreach.vantage will be, is because president obama rescued the automobile industry. 850,000 jobs in ohio tied to the automobile industry. on trade, mitt romney said, no, we shouldn't -- we shouldn't actually sanction china for dumping tires. president obama said yes we should. >> but polls are tightening in ohio. >> yes, they are. i agree with to mr. reed on this point. people need to take that very seriously. the other thing is, the manufacturing jobs are beginning to grow again in america for the first time and ohio has benefited from that. there are 125,000 clean-energy jobs. 125,000 jobs right there in ohio and mitt romney wants to get rid of them. you'll pay a cost for having been on the wrong side of the auto bailout jobs that are growing. the ground game it will be tight. it will be even tighter than 2004. >> are you prepared for recounts? >> i hope i get south florida again this time. >> we can all be in columbus. cincinnati. >> i'm going to tell you what's going to happen, that band

, who was helping them in ohio with the machinery of the campaigning, leaflets, phone calling, door knockings, get out the vote, with the work that goes into a presidential campaign? who helped ohio do that work in 2011? it was the obama campaign. jeremy byrd, national field director for the obama campaign was on the ground in ohio joining the fight last year. they did not leave the state in 2008 after obama won it last year. they didn't leave the state in '08 and plan to come back now. the obama campaign has been working in ohio all along. after their big win in the 2010 midterms, the republicans thought they had taken ohio back. they thought they could put their stamp on ohio starting with their historic rollback of union rights. and, boy, were they wrong. the local papers described republican governor john kasich as humbled by that experience. but after the union rights thing just got trounced in the polls in ohio, it actually got worse for him after that and for the ohio republican party. because it wasn't just that setback over trying to strip union rights. governor kasich also signed a

community i know people who are doing less and less excited than they were four years ago, not door knockingnot going to swing states the way they did four years ago, that has to have somewhat of an impact. they want to squeeze every vote they can out of their natural constituency. it's natural but if it's so tight like this and you don't know if there's any funny business with superpack ads, voter suppression efforts, they just want to get everybody out that they can, and i think ads like that are, i hope are effective. >> there are definitely a lot of polls that show an enthusiasm gap with republicans just rabid, you know, determined to get obama out of office and democrats, they're working their way toward it but not where they were in '08. that's the main project of the obama campaign. >> republicans there are so many haters in their midst, not all but so many haters on the right they're going to vote, they're going to show up. jonathan and david, thank you as always. >>> here's one for obama, bruce springsteen, the boss, the singer is working on a new campaign song for the president. th

there's all kinds of phone banking going on, there's door knocking going on.here's rallies at workplaces. everybody really stressing, how tremendously important it is that people get out and vote early, people make sure they vote. >> and of course, bob king was telling us that there's no doubt that mitt romney had nothing to do with the automobile recovery and he did not have the correct model for it. as for the ground game, mr. cohen, how intense is it in ohio? >> it's intense. between the sherrod brown campaign and the obama campaign, 5,000 volunteers, not just knocking on doors and phone banks, but at work, folks on break rooms, talking up this selection. three years ago, ohio had 10% unemployment. now it's 7%. between the auto, the auto bailout work that the president supported and sherrod brown supported and the attacks on jobs moving to china, there is rising employment in ohio. s this related to the car industry. but everybody, whether they're in telecom or manufacturing, understand that difference between going backwards into fairy tale capitalism, as

because students are back in the college towns of ohio, they're getting excited and doing the door knockingdoor. both parties are trying to bank as many votes in early voting and that's important because they keep track each day of who has voted, and then they try to put their money in resources in the people still lift on the list. >> and registration ending today? >> i think it was -- it's within a couple days now. but they were going door to door to get people to do the in person early voting, absentee ballots and try to have a personal connection. one of the things we were told again and again, people are tired by the phone calls, overwhelmed by the ads but meeting people on their door steps having a conversation about the race both parties feel they can turn someone or get them to go vote if they might have been sort of apathetic about voting. >> there was a pew poll of the mid western states and in this poll, it was a 50 to 44, mitt romney over president obama. >> which is not been what we had been hearing. the auto industry is huge in ohio and the president had an advantage there tal

we're making sure we use every tool at our disposal through early voting, absentee casting and door knocks and canvassing to turn out the votes and help people understand the election is critical and every vote counts. weep knew it would narrow and that's we're put together a campaign that we're executing now to carry barack obama back to the white house on the shoulders of our people-powered campaign. we've maid progress. people are enthusiastic. president obama enjoys overwhelming support from women. from latinos, from middle class voters and from independents, and he is going to win this election because people know that we can't go backwards, as mitt romney has proposed, to economic policies that crashed our economy. we can't turn medicare into a voucher system. we can't have a president who would veto the dream act and thinks we should have 12 million undocumented immigrants self-deport. we can't have a candidate become president like mitt romney who hasek treatment views on women's health. >> let's me ask you about what's going on with florida. senator nelson according to democrats w