they haven't talked about, for example, the doral golf course and the d.c. postal office project. so we can expect that if they're able to ask questions, they'll go to the backbone of this case, the valuation of a specific list of properties. >> wolf and dana, speaking of that, the trump tower apartment is one of the biggest points at the center of all of these allegations, and the process koort prosecutors were trying to use trump's own words against him, what he said to "forbes" magazine, bragging about the size, which was three times smaller than he was saying. they are trying to use what he has said previously against him in this back and forth. >> trump had said repeatedly that that apartment was some 30,000 square feet, when in fact, after they counted it precisely, it was a little more than 10,000 square feet. we'll get back to you guys. thanks very much for doing what you're doing. we're going to talk about all of this further with our experts right now. laura, let me start with you. you're our chief legal affairs analysts, you're an anchor at krp cnn now. talk about what

she talked about 700 units at doral, she talked about the spa. we just saw her talking about the old post office. very familiar in painting a picture over these developments. but then when it came to being questioned about the underlying financials, not so much. >> all right. and, as i said, i've known over the years people in casual dinners with her says she knows every square foot, every number and she prided herself upon that. let's go now to the former trump white house lawyer ty cobb. what is the impact of ivanka's testimony today as you see it? >> i see it as totally inconsequential and perhaps a tactical error by the prosecutors, because they didn't get any evidence in that they didn't really already have. as you said, the documents really spoke for themselves. now, there was a little theater, of course. but i'm concerned as a former prosecutor and somebody who believes you can't -- just because of donald trump's big lie and his crimes and the many tragic things that he's done and the damage he's done to the country, you can assess him one

emails revealed in court show her involvement on the financing for the doral golf club in florida in 2011. she was copied on a submission to deutsche bank of her father's statement of financial conditions, which portrayed his net worth as $3 billion higher than it actually was. that resulted in a deal with much better loan rates than had been previously offered. she then wrote to her fellow executives, "it doesn't get better than this." ivanka said she didn't remember sending the email, but state lawyer lewis solomon said it was clear she was negotiating the deal from top to bottom. the 2011 lease of the old post office building in washington, which donald trump turned into the trump hotel, and then sold in 2022 for 139 million. ivanka and brothers eric and don jr. each reaped $4 million. new york attorney general letitia james said ivanka will not be age to hide from the truth. >> at the end of the day, this case is about fraudulent statements of financial condition that she benefitted from. she was enriched. and clearly, you cannot distance yourself from that fact. >> reporter: sit

the deals that got loans from deutsche bank and they include the doral golf course in florida and the post office office in d.c. she was asked about this apartment that she has in manhattan. a penthouse apartment that s of $8.5 million. on her father's financial statements, it was listed at 2 and half times that and she said she didn't know what went into the calculation and what didn't. but as it relates to the loans at center of this, we saw documents of her involvement in the emails involving her and she acknowledge the that she was involved in that. but she also said it was at a very high level. she wasn't involved at the granule nitty-gritty details of it. so again trying to distance herself just as her brothers donald trump jr. and eric trump did when they testified last week in this case. cross-examination got underway and they were having her talk about the relationships with deutsche bank and under cross she was having more leeway to explain that the bank was excited to do business with them, that the co-chair of the bank came and met with her and her father at trump tower to

worked on while she was at the trump organization and that are part of this lawsuit including the doral golf course in florida and the old post office building in washington, d.c. now, on the doral project they've shown her e-mails where she's acknowledging she was negotiating different terms for these -- for the loan they wanted to take out, shopping it around to different banks, ultimately going with deutsche bank's private wealth group with donald trump's personal guarantee. that allowed them to get a lower interest rate. but when she was asked about that she said it wasn't something she considered at the time that they would have a different rate offered by one side of the bank and a better rate offered by another side of the bank. so distancing herself a bit from that. they also talked about an apartment that she owns here in manhattan, a penthouse, that had an option to buy it for $8.5 million one year. in her father's financial statements it, though, was listed at $20.8 million, so about 2 1/2 times more than what her option was. when she was pressed on that, she also distanced h

asegurar un prÉstamo y un contrato de alquiler para un hotel de washington y tambiÉn la financiaciÓn del doral, hoy la hija mayor del ex presidente testificÓ sobre un correo electrÓnico del 2011, comentando la generosidad de los tÉrminos de un prÉstamo, no es mejor que esto, escribiÓ ivanka, refiriÉndose a los documentos sobre el estado financiero de su padre dijo en la corte, supongo que tendrÍa estados financieros personales, esas no eran cosas de las que yo estaba al tanto. la fiscal sostiene que asegurÓ y negociÓ los prÉstamos, y que se beneficiÓ de estas transacciones fraudulentas porque inflaron el patrimonio. en las cuales los bancos insistÍan que ellos tenÍan que comprobar que trump estaba valorizado en mÍnimo 2.5 billones de dÓlares. quiere decir que su involucramiento es mucho mÁs de lo que ella pretende lo que ha testificado. blanca: inicialmente era una acusada. su padre y sus dos hermanos, pero un tribunal de apelaciones desestimÓ el caso en su contra, aÚn asÍ el tribunal exigiÓ su comparecencia como es empleada con un conocimiento Íntimo de la organizaciÓn. el caso queda listo pa

she could remember details about the doral golf club purchase in florida. one of his probably single biggest golf course acquisitions. and so on and so forth. and ivanka is somebody who remembers the colors of the walls and how they were painted in every project that they worked on. they could tell you how many windows were put in an every project. she could tell you how many new trials were put in the floors. she could tell you the interest rate on loans that they received. she could talk about the amount of debt leveraged against each property that they owned. so the idea that suddenly in this courtroom she can't really recall specifics about evaluations or how that tied in two statements that the trumps gave to the banks, it's more than passing strange. and i suspect, since there is not a jury present, none of this is really being lost on arthur engoron, the judge hearing this case, so he's now essentially the jury of one for the trumps. >> today don't arms lawyers tried to short-circuit the case by asking the judge to find it on trump's favor because or

just take doral in florida, for example. in the last few minutes donald trump under questioning from his own defense attorney was articulating why doral was valued at $1.3 billion, making the case that they redid the golf course, redid the ballrooms at the resort. for don jr. this is the opportunity, just mere feet away from the judge to articulate and make the proclamation that the judge was wrong in his bench ruling, his bench decision that he, his brother, his father and others in the trump organization committed financial fraud and that when he's making his decision about whatever penalties they may incur, they should take into account the full perspective that it is the international corporation that is the trump organization and the robustness and the detail that goes interval ewing each property on a subjective basis. that's what don jr. and his defense attorney were attempting to lay out in the first three hours of the defense's call in this case. >> paul, the defense has spent a lot of time letting don jr. talk abou

we have 60,000 square foot warehouse in doral. we have to rent an additional 70,000 square foot warehouse in doral also just to be able to basically handle this crisis. >> and how can we continue to help, michael? >> the best way to help at this point is funding. sometimes, believe it or not, supplies are great. it is actually cheaper to buy things in country, even in israel right now. there is still things that could be purchased. so, we have made two different campaigns due to the nature of the situation. so we have an israel fund, and then we have a palestinian fund. and it is on our israel-hamas war page. you can just pick your campaign, or both, and it is global empowerment mission.org. and it is important. we have a lot of support because this is a monumental undertaking. you know, and it is, like, you know this, it is not just gaza that is in major need right now. israel is being evacuated every day. there is people from the north, from the south, and they have nowhere to go. there is people hiding underground now in shelte

acknowledged working to secure loans guaranteed by her father's wealth for trump properties, like the doralf club in miami. but says she couldn't remember the details, at one point saying, "i believe it was the ninth month of pregnancy of my oldest daughter." attorney general letitia james unmoved. >> this case is about fraudulent statements of financial condition that she benefited from. she was enriched. and clearly, you cannot distance yourself from that fact. >> reporter: the state has now rested its case. the defense is going to begin on monday. but david, it's going to be an uphill climb, since the judge has already decided former president trump engaged in fraud. david? >> david: aaron katersky, thank you. >>> we're going to turn now to the urgent manhunt, 40 miles outside new york city at this hour, in middlesex county, new jersey, after a suspect wanted in the january 6th attack evaded authorities. this was the scene in central new jersey today, a massive police presence. the fbi and s.w.a.t. teams called in. abc's scene for us tonight. >> reporter: an all-out manhunt tonight in th

emails revealed to the court showed her involvement for the financing of the doral golf club in floridapied on a submission to deutsche bank of her father's statement of financial conditions, which portray his net worth as $3 billion higher than it actually was. that resulted in a deal with much better loan rates than had been previously offered. she then wrote to her fellow executives, "it doesn't get better than this." ivanka said she did not remember sending the email, but state lawyer louis solomon said it was clear she was negotiating the deal from top to bottom. the case has also focused attention on ivanka's negotiation of the 2011 lease of the old post office building in washington, which donald trump turned into the trump hotel and then sold in 2022 for $139 million. ivanka and brothers eric and don jr. each reaped $4 million. new york attorney general letitia james said ivanka will not be able to hide from the truth. >> at the end of the day, this case is about fraudulent statements of financial condition that she benefited from. and she was enriched. and clearly, you cannot d

and then secondly, doral.ars into these properties. and i don't think there is a lot of dispute. maybe somebody has had a bad experience in one of their hotels. they're nice hotels, but they are all for the most part losing money. >> they're all losers is what she is saying, mary. and i don't know that we understood how triggering, what a triggering event it is for trump to be a loser. we learned it from sue and russ's reporting, the elaborate steps he takes to not be a business loser, to not say my dad gave me money and i squandered it. elaborate, elaborate steps. but i think we failed to learn that and understand that ahead of the 2020 election. i think that's why it was so hard for republicans first. they enabled him to have his little tantrum and say i didn't lose. of course he lost, right? every presidential election, one of the two people loses. but i wonder what price, what bills you think are coming due for the inability to understand his inability to lose? >> unfortunately, we're going find out one wa

a project in florida, the or the r -- the doral resort and spa. they talked about where she negotiated the terms of a loan, and the bank said in order to get the favorable terms for a high net worth individual, trump would need to maintain a personal net worth of $3 billion. but they presented an email that said she suggested lowering that threshold to $2 billion. but at the time, his financial statements said his net worth was over $4 billion. these exchanges are technical but speak to the heart of the case. the concern that maybe trump wasn't being honest and accurate about his net worth. they also asked her about an apartment she had in one of her father's buildings. it had a purchase option to buy it for $8.5 million but on trump's financial statements that same apartment was valued at $20.8 million. so a lot of questions coming out of the testimony. most recently before the state wrapped up, they asked about the old post office in d.c. this is something she and her father worked on for a long time, considered it a success but the state reveal

she was also asked about financing for trump's doral resort and spa in florida and was confronted with an e-mail she wrote to other trump organization employees about the bank's loan term proposal saying, it doesn't get better than that. the bank required donald trump to maintain a $3 billion network to maintain favorable loan terms. but according to an e-mail in court, ivanka changed the requirement to $2 million, as part of the loan negotiations. even though trump's 2011 financial statements estimated his net worth at $4.2 billion. they agreed on $2.5 billion. the exchange is significant because the attorney general is accusing trump of falsifying his net worth to get better loan rates. ivanka was dismissed as a subject in this case. and she tried to distance herself from her father's financial statements. >> i don't know what was prepared of his behalf for him as a person. >> reporter: and during cross-examination by her father's attorney, she testified about the relationship she cultivated with the bank and their willingness to do business with trump's company. the bank had tremend

so they cannot put her on the hook of that, but she was intimately involved with the deals of the doral club and the post office, and she can talk about those valuation, and the valuations are the key here, and the inaccuracy and the inflation of the valuations, so that is what they will be asking her about, and how were these valued and why are these numbers so vastly different from the real numbers. >> it was suggested yesterday that the whole thing, which this trial could wrap up, and i believe it is described a week earlier than expected. are people reading into that and why? >> well, the state is going to rest the case when ivanka trump finishes which is to be thursday and trump begins the defense. his lawyers vs are saying they call back the son, because on direct they can pose the questions differently and not limited to what the prosecutors asked. and so they may call up some of the banks involved in the loan, because they have testimony saying it was not material to them, the financial statements, and it was no at the main factor in the decision when they decided to loan them m

let's take, for example, trump doral down in florida, the resort and spa. she was working on the financing for that project. and in one really notable exchange, they show how the bank wanted trump to maintain a net worth of $3 billion in order to have these more favorable loan terms, but she suggested lowering that threshold to $2 billion. now, they settled on $2.5. of course, that is significant because at the heart of this case is an allegation that he was maybe not being honest about his net worth. and at the same time, he had cited his net worth back then in 2011 as being around $4 billion. they also asked about the old post office here in washington, d.c., which they converted into a trump hotel, and how the government had questions for her about exactly how they had compiled their financial statements. they also asked her about a penthouse apartment that she had in one of her father's buildings. it had a purchase option of $8.5 billion. but in her father's personal valuation, it was valued at $20.8 million. so all of this goes to the heart of the case

previously reported it was around $4 million, and they've asking her about other projects like the doraland spa down in florida and they are especially interested how financing was secured for these properties. her role in that because it gets to the heart of the case and specifically loans that were received from deutsche bank and she's loans had quite favorable terms. they were granted those kinds of loans, based on trump's purported net worth and that gets to the heart of this case. the allegation that he did not accurately represent the value of his assets to get more favorable terms on loans and the insurance companies. so it was a part of the questioning and it has been selfized and technical and that's pretty much when we expecteded from this witness. ivanka is no longer a co-defendant in this case, but the attorney general's office has been seeking to secure her testimonial though she's tried several different times to get out of this appearance before today's proceedings got under way and the attorney general addressed cameras to talk about why they wanted to hear from ivanka. l

a loan for the doral golf course in florida and the old post office building in washington, d.c. testified that she had set up a relationship with deutsche bank through one of these bankers and she said she was involved in the loans at a high level but she said she didn't recall much of that including a lot of detail about what was required under the personal guarantee her father agreed to in order to get these loans. they focused on the old post office building and pulled up an e vail that indicated the gsa which was involved in this deal, that they had identified trump's financial statements had not complied with all accounting rules. she was asked if that came up during a meeting she attended with her father. she said she didn't recall the financial statements coming up in that meeting, distancing herself from it. the key allegation in this case is that loans were decided based on these allegedly fraudulent financial statements. she said she didn't remember that coming up and that the discussions then were about her vision for the project. now she was also asked about a pentho

there are a few properties that she would have been involve in the financing and number one, doral countryb in miami and the post office which as many people know became the trump hotel in washington, d.c., and she may have information about those two things. the other question looming overhead, and this was muddy with her father and brothers' testimony is did accountants or members of the trump family or others ultimately sign off on the statements of financial conditions? the balance sheets there. the trump sons sort of said, no, no, no. this is all accountants and we didn't have much to do about this. their father was more ambiguous about it, so i would think the prosecutors would push her and ask questions about that. who actually made the calls as to what the financing was for any of these properties. >> elliott. she's not a co-defendant in this case, as we've said. so how could that, should that, will that change what she does on the stand or how the assistant state attorney approaches her in questioning. >> you know, i really don't think so solely on the fact that should a civil cas

lenders, deutsche bank, and she was involved in several deals including a golf course in florida, doraland the old post office building in washington, d.c. the questions she will be facing will involve her knowledge of the financial statements, she has denied having any knowledge of them, as well as what her conversations were with bankers, what representations she made to them and that they may have relied on. so that's going to be the key piece of her testifying today. now, when her testimony wraps, and this could go into tomorrow because trump's lawyers say that they are going to cross-examine her, unlike the other trumps who have testified, when that wraps, which could be tomorrow, that is when the new york attorney general's office is going to rest their case. they're seeking $250 million but so far what has come out in testimony through expert witnesses, one expert witness said that they had -- that the trumps had received $168 million in improper gains by getting these better interest rates. during trump's testimony there was also some evidence that came in that showed on the old

their main focus today were the loans she was involved in, and that was the golf course, known as doral in florida, as well as the old post office building that she helped negotiate to get the lease. they asked a lot of questions about that, showing documents indicates she was involved in the loans, that she knew her father's financial statements were provided. her testimony was she was involved at a high level and she introduced the relationship to deutsche bank to the trump organization. but she said when it came to the nitty-gritty details, she didn't recall them. like her brothers, don jr. and eric trump, who testified last week, distancing themselves from the financial statements. she said she had no involvement in them. she didn't know what went into the values on the statements. she didn't approve them. she didn't review them. consistently like her brother saying they did not have any involvement in them. you mentioned the old post office building. they had received the financial statements as part of the bidding process for that. and she was asked about a letter, an email, that

his doral golf course, 40 wall street, i think one of the most sensitive is going to be the value of his mar-a-lago resort, down in florida. he has taken issue with the fact that the judge found that to be valued around $18 million. one of his lawyers suggested that it would likely be closer to $1 billion and said it was, quote, the mona lisa of real estate. legally speaking, he is likely going to be advised to just stick to the defense that there was a claus in there, banks should do their own due diligence, and that valuation is more of an art than a science. just stick with the "art" theme. i think that's what lawyers will do. >> but there is the question, this gets to the skepticism that is merited, which is, do you think he can do that? can he stick to the, art, not a science, i'm not going to stick specific numbers on it. his life is numbers. >> he can do it. he's done so many depositions over the course of his very litigious career and we've seen where he can be the consummate executive, a little bit of a cranky executive, but he can stay on script. but this is different, beca

so she was presented with some of these loan documents involving the golf course doral in miami, floridaas well as the old post office beinuilding washington, d.c. ivanka trump was testifying about how she had become the relationship person. she said she was involved in a high level. she said she didn't recall a lot of the nitty-gritty details of the loans and wasn't even involved that much in it, so distancing herself from the loans and negotiating them. now, she'd been asked questions about the personal financial statements of her father, like her brother and don jr. who testified last week, she said she didn't prepare them. she didn't know how they came together. she didn't input any information into the value of certain assets, distancing herself from these very financial statements and in one example today, they had presented with her an option she had to buy a penthouse apartment here in manhattan in one of the buildings her father owns, and the listing price she had for this was about $8.5 million. on trump's financial statements for that same year, it was about 2.5 times higher a

bankers story goes all the way back to 2011, that is 12 years ago, regarding the renovation of the doralolf club near miami, florida. that turned out to be a tremendous success story. bankers also testified mr. trump paid off his loans, frequently paid off his loans ahead of schedule! indeed the co-ceo of deutsche bank testified that the bank in 2013, in a meeting at trump tower, he suggested the bank could lend mr. trump even more money because mr. trump's credit worthiness was so strong. now, this goofy justice engeron with all his ties to the new york democratic machine, barely listened to the crucial testimony of mr. trump's bank lenders and that is too bad. of course in new york as elsewhere nowadays, during the biden years, republicans and conservatives are subjected to a two-tiered justice system. the charges against mr. trump concerning the allegation of inflated assets, alleged falsifying financial statements, insurance fraud, all that is a fabrication based on left-wing imaginations. this is just like the other charges against trump in washington and florida and georgia which w

of the major deals, the old post office, which became the trump hotel in washington, d.c., and the doralub in miami, they were done by ivanka. she was the lead negotiator. she's the one who helped acquire those properties, and according to the ag, the reason why the trump organization received loans for those properties is because of false statements and financial statements. that's why she was called because she was the captain of the two projects, and her i don't recalls, you can say it was ten years ago, but she confirmed facts. she was able to say, yes, that e-mail, yes i was the one who brought deutsche bank in. she was a very important witness for the attorney general. >> a couple of weeks ago, ivanka was snapped by paparazzi going to kim kardashian's birthday party, and today snapped into the manhattan courthouse, being pulled into her father's orbit. people might forget before her dad was president, she was sought after in new york social circles. chelsea clinton was a good friend. there are personal stakes for they are today, and i wonder how does she separate the life she wants

doral, a golf course, mar-a-lago, all these assets are worth much more than was on the financial statementspanies. >> andrew, what does his performance on the stand today tell you about whether or not we'll ever see him on the stand in a criminal case where the rules are very different? i think andrew, you might, okay. >> i'm so sorry, andrea. i think the chances of his testifying in a criminal case are very, very remote. i worked on the mueller investigation where the former president who was then the president said that he would be more than happy to come in and talk with us and that never happened. i'm not faulting him for that. i think he would have had a very difficult time answering the questions. as we've talked about it, he doesn't make particularly good witness. obviously, the facts matter. there may be stronger and weaker cases but i can't imagine that we will see him on the stand in either, for instance, the january 6th case, or the mar-a-lago documents case where the proof, you know, at least is alleged by the government appears to be so overwhelming. it's hard to see anything t

her she remembered intimate details about what happened in terms of the acquisition of the doral and she was pregnant with her first child. and giving a sentimental account of the dreams of developing this property, how this was a property that was close to her father's heart. and i think that in that product cross-examination we are going to see the window of what the defense case will look like when they recall her brothers, eric trump and donald trump jr.. this will be the first witness. on the defense witness list is the former president again. so if we can take a look at that kind of history of what happened during ivanka trump's cross examination, this is where it is going. they want to discredit the case against them as a political vendetta. they want to portray themselves as victims of prosecutorial overreach. and give a kind of sentimental portrayal of what life in the trump organization was like. >> do you have any sense after watching donald trump jr. testify the first time around after the prosecution called him as a witness, how they will approach the cross-examination w

hotel in washington called the old post office and the other is on a large golf course they have in dorale going to be waiting for all of that, i think it will come to an end mid next week, late next week. you can tell it's very personal and you've seen outbursts of donald trump in the courtroom, just him showing up himself shows how personal it is to him. >> sue craig, lisa rubin, thank you both. i'll hopefully let you grab a little lunch before you have to go back into the courtroom. danny, i want to go back to the point about how the sons fit into this, right? in the complaint, it makes it clear that from 2017 o donald trump jr. was the one signing these financial documents, signing off essentially on this stuff. que,his is what it says in the mplaint, as executive vice presidents of the trump organization, donald trump jr., ivankaru, and eric trump were also aware of, and knowingly participated in, the scheme. indeed, the fraudult scheme was integral to the business of the trump organization and required the participation of mr. trump and his children. so what's the defense? >> look f

the golf course in doral, do you want to risk a reversal on this one stupid document.>> what they're trying to do is control the information now. they want to put in as much information as they can, and that's why you see testimony about the history of the properties to make their case that there is so much value involved here that didn't come out ithe state'sriginal case. justice engoron is on the side of letting the testimony in. the state has been visly frustrated with this. i think that's the wrong tack. i think the state should let donald trump jr. testify in a way, justice engoron is doing the ag's office a favor, by allowing the defense to put in as much -- >> digging a hole? >> yes, that but by allowing them to put in as much evidence as they want without objection, it's going to be harder on appeal if the defense loses to claim, hay, we weren't given a fair trial. we weren't allowed to put in the evidence we want. i get it. i get being frustrated, but they should take a stop back and realize justice engoron is helping them by allowing the defense to put in as

another project she was really involved in,nd that's the doral.rojects were financed by deutsche bank. she was the point person in many cases between the bank and the trump organization in submitting documents. i have to say three words stand out about what i heard in court. it's the words, i don't recall. she said it so many times. i eventually gave up keeping a list. multiple times she said it was a long time ago and she couldn't recall. >> susan craig, i guess that's the way it will continue in the afternoon. thanks for being with us. >>> a pause for thought. american officials pressing the israeli counterparts for a pause, time to get humanitarian aid into gaza. senator chris murphy joining us next. including ukraine. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. start your day with nature made. the #1 pharmacist recommended vitamin and supplement brand. have fun, sis! ♪♪ can't stop adding stuff to your cart? get the bank of america customized cash rewards card, choose the online shopping category and earn 3% cash back. have heart failur

we've been rolling through two main projects are really the hotel in washington she was involved in in doral over and over we can see just how involved she was, but her demeanor, it's how she's been the opposite of her father. she's been answering very politely. she often does say i don't recall, she smiles after she says i don't recall often. and there was one, even one moment where the judge stopped and just thanked the audio-visual people in the courtroom for just the great job they're doing in keeping this trial running smoothly by getting the documents up and ivanka turned to him and agreed and said, yes, it's very impressive indeed. she's doing everything she can to be polite and courteous. this is the polar opposite of what we saw from her father earlier this week. >> chris, can i add just one point there? >> sure. >> reporter: after she says she doesn't recall particular events like meetings that she set up or attended or particular documents, she's also careful to say -- and you know, in some cases have been forced to say -- but i don't quibble with what the document says. i don't q

donald trump told the court he thinks that mar-a-lago, doral, 40 wall street all were actually underestimatedanhattan apartment and trump tower was too high. i want to bring in someone who led the construction on trump tower, former executive vice president of the trump organization barbara res. it's good to see you, barbara. >> hi, how are you? >> good. is it possible to think that donald trump's apartment is 30,000 square feet and not 10,000 square feet? >> i don't think the building's big enough for that to be 30,000 square feet, no. it's nothing like that when i built it. and i don't think it's changed. >> so when you hear things from him on the stand, including the admission today, he thought that property was overvalued when he looked at it, and yet the statement that went in was over value. tell us what your thought is as you know the way that this is all playing out, which is that the judge has already said fraud was committed. >> well, i'm not sure what you mean by over valued. what was he saying was over valued? >> he admitted the statement they made about the price tag could potent

the doral golf course she talked how her and her father would reminisce it was the first spa in the worldvoice. but i must say, joy, for the most part, she really developed a case of amnesia. >> is it surprising to you based on the way that the prosecution is presenting her knowledge of the business that she's not a part of the case? >> she is a part of the case. >> that she's not on trial. >> yeah. she's not a defendant. she's just a witness and she had to be dragged here. she fought tooth and nail. she said i have to take my kids to school in miami. but she didn't win. she was back. we thought she might even continue into tomorrow. prosecution ended. there was a short cross. and she's gone. >> and she didn't sit at the defense table. that's odd. >> she didn't. because she's not a defendant. so she was able to avoid that camera spray where they have to smile and mug for the cameras before they take the stand. >> was there any sort of interaction between sort of looking, any eye contact? what was the interaction between her and the defense table? >> she actually, as i saw, eric did this a

guarantee he could cover all of the principle and income on the loan and the operating income, the doralnted him to attest that he had a minimum net worth of $2.5 billion, which as ivanka and trump organization lawyer named jason greenblatt acknowledged to each other in an email exchange was going to be a problem. nonetheless, donald trump told deutsche bank not only did he have $2.5 billion in his network exclusive of his brand, he had over $4 billion. this is a difficult set of documents for the trump organization and the ag's case against them. if you were in the courtroom, you would see nothing but what seems look a hypertechnical even dull presentation with a very polite, very conscious ivanka trump moving through the testimony as uncontroversially as she can. >> and, far different from what is happening with her father on the case there. and so, there is a 15-minute break and then they come back shortly, i presume. >> reporter: we are. we'll be there until about 1:00 p.m. for our lunch break, then break for an hour, come back at 2:15. ivanka trump is expected, however, to be cross-

issues that were brought up today, when she was questioned on the stand, is the old post office and the doralgolf resort, but of which, ivanka was the point person on, both of those are involved in this james is questioning, of her questioning. she is as high up as anybody could be but slightly below her father. >> there's been this sort of after january six, at the white house. what appears to be a transparent attempt to distance herself from her father. i don't think it is particularly successful, because everyone knows who she is, that seems different than the brothers. is that a fair read? >> yeah, that is definitely a ferried. i tell you what else is a fair read, is that sketch artist certainly did a better job on ivanka and don and eric, even donald, and then she did on me. putting that aside, right, i don't even know who she was drawing when she was joining me, but putting that aside, yes, yes, absolutely. first of all, she's trying to distance herself because it's not the look that she wants to portray, not certainly in -- there in miami, where they are having a rough time in terms of

specifically at the doral property, some transactions dating back to 2011, outside the statute of limitations. ivanka, a former executive, former co-defendant in the trial as you had mentioned, her brothers, eric and don, jr., and her father are co-defendants in the trial. while entering the courthouse, new york attorney general letitia james spoke about her as if she was still a defendant. listen to this. >> miss trump will do all that she can to try to separate herself from this corporation but she's tied to the trump organization and to these properties that she helped secure financing for. >> ivanka's brothers, eric and don, jr., they testified last week they had no involvement in preparing statements of financial condition, something ivanka has also said on the stand. they said they left the accounting to the company's accountants. president trump himself said under oath on monday this case should be dismissed immediately, calling attorney general games a political hack and the judge biased. trump laid out his defense on truth social writing no victims, no defaults, conservative financia

questions today will focus on the valuation of the property, and properties like 40 wall street, his doral golf club, and also mar-a-lago, and that's one that is really sensitive for him. we have heard him talk about this as he is enthorring courtroom, and the judge has found that the value around that property is $18 million and something that trump and the lawyers have taken issue with, and the challenge of trump while he is under questioning for prosecutor is to be compose and stick to the script that the lawyers have guided him through for the preparation which is to emphasize that there are disclaimers in all of the valuation, and also to emphasize the valuing properties is an art and not a science. but this case gets to something very close to his heart which is his identify as a business tycoon, and we know that he has pretty thin skin, and so this is a test for him if he can remain composed. we know he can do this, because he has taken the witness stand many, many years before long before he was a candidate for white house, and right now while he is on the witness stand, the politi

just in the last two minutes he has been listing other properties incluing doral that he believes is undervalued. he's making his own case that the trump brand is worth $10 billion. this is part of his defense effort he's now making on the stand as well as publicly, that his value and that of his family -- his name is actually significantly higher. one other note, ana, as he was answering some of these questions here, again, judge en good morning jumped in and said donald trump was not getting to the heart of the actual question that the new york attorney general's prosecutor was asking him, which was the question was he the one directing the exact number that should be placed for the value of said properties. we've got a big afternoon ahead, ana. >> thank you all so much. please stay close. we'll have much more from inside that courtroom on donald trump's historic testimony. first, israeli forces renewing the call for civilians to leave northern gaza warning of a fresh assault as their forces en sieshgal gaza city. s en sieshgal gaza city you know that feeling of having to rewash di

main contact between the trump organization and members of deutsche bank for loans, going over the doralrenovation. so the lawyer for the attorney general's office bringing up a lot of documents, for example, do you recall the deutsche bank proposed different interest rates, she said, i do, but i don't think these were final because it wasn't consistent with my recollection. also, do you remember the guarantor said you must maintain a net worth of $3 billion, so this is, again, getting to the statements of financial condition that many trump family members certifieds having accurate valuations, and this is what they would provide to the people that ivanka knew at deutsche bank to get those terms, better terms, the ag contends, than what they should have been entitled to, ana. >> it sounds like there has been some back and forth between a member of the trump legal team and the judge. what is happening? >> reporter: it is not as contentious as it was with the former president. he was giving a lot of responses the judge considered nonresponsive to the questions at hand. that could have been

role is in negotiating the loans and the terms of those loans for two projects in particular, the doral golf course and the old post office property in washington, did. c., that's a government property that we know as the trump international hotel d.c. that's no longer leased by the trumps, they sold it for $375 million last year, but she was the spear header of that project from inception to fruition, that means everything from negotiating with over 20 government agencies about the trump's bid for that property, to being involved in all of the loan terms and that's what the attorney general wanted to establish yesterday that relationship with deutsche and the conditions of loaning. >> in sum total, was this good for the trump family, bad for the trump family, to have those four witnesses on stand? >> on balance it was bad for trump family but we expect three of those four trumps to come back. don and eric will be witnesses for their father. i suspect the former president will be back. cross exam mags is always limited to the scope of what the direct examination is, you can't go beyond

and the second property is a golf course in florida called doral. both received financing and information was given to banks that the attorney general is very interested in. >> sue craig, thank you so much for your reporting on this and for being in the middle of new york life. we're grateful. glen and tim, stick around. we'll take a -- we'll take a quick break and then get a live report from our colleagues over on the israel-gaza border where the last hour has seen some aggressive aerial attacks. is this for me? (sniffs) if you like squeaky toys from chewy it is. did i get anything this year? get a free, $30 e-gift card at chewy. i'm still going to eat your socks. no you're not. get great deals on gifts that deliver excitement at chewy. when moderate to severe ulcerative colitis takes you off course. put it in check with rinvoq, a once-daily pill. when i wanted to see results fast, rinvoq delivered rapid symptom relief and helped leave bathroom urgency behind. check. when uc tried to slow me down... i got lasting, steroid-free remission with rinvoq

they were the lender on doral, a golf course outside of miami.e middle of the chicago project, a huge hotel that donald trump built in the 2000s, and they were the lender on that and that was his last actual full project that he built from the ground up, so deutsche bank is very intertwined with the trump family and all coming to the forefront in a courtroom in manhattan because a number of these loans are now under the microscope by the attorney general in new york, and when you think about it, this week was interesting and i know we're going to talk to lisa a lot more about what happened today in the court but you have to think in terms of the trial they're his biggest lender, in a way his biggest victim as well and came forward to say, i think in some that these loans, you know, they are all performing, and we didn't -- and deutsche bank executives were saying we didn't necessarily fully rely on them. we did our own due diligence on these loans and went ahead with our own metrics and made the loan and that's one of donald trump's key points, t

ivanka trump helped set up some of the loans at issue in the trial including one for trump national doralher to maintain a minimum net worth of $3 billion. she wrote to company executives about the loan's favorable terms. it doesn't get any better than this. but asked about specifics, she said she couldn't recall, testifying, i believe it was the ninth month of pregnancy of my oldest daughter. the defense is going to begin calling witnesses next week, seeking to impress a judge who has already determined that former president trump committed fraud. guys? >> all right, aaron. thank you for your reporting. coming up later, bad bunny blasting a new song that uses artificial intelligence to fake his voice. how he is fighting back. and next, the newly approved weight loss drug. dr. jen ashton is here with what you need to know. come on back. and, dr. ashton is here with things you need to know about weight-loss. come on back! ♪ ♪ everybody here really, really make you feel like family and that they love you. our goal with tiktok was to enrich the lives of our residents and just to be able to s

microscope right now, including the old post office hotel in washington, which the trumps used to own, and doral outside of miami. it will be interesting to see what they have to say about whether they relied on it and what their interactions were with the trump organization. >> something tells me you and i will see a lot of each other next week. thank you. enjoy your holiday. lisa, same to you. mara is sticking around. >>> we are waiting for a briefing on the deadly explosion at the border. we will bring that to you. don't go anywhere. black friday is here at wayfair! it's time to light. up. the savings! shop big deals now through november 27th! get bedroom furniture up to 65% off. area rugs up to 80% off. lighting up to 60% off. and everything ships free! plus, pay your way with the wayfair credit card. shop wayfair's lowest prices of the year during black friday now through nov 27th. ♪ wayfair, you've got just what i need ♪ >>> after each person spoke, you spoke directly to the person and really shared in our agony and anguish and validated our despair and said that he was going to use any in

whether through donald trump junior's work on leasing, ivanka on doral, trump chicago or eric trump'sroles as executive ve presidents, each of the three trump children have familiarity with, responsibility for, and made use of the statements of financial condition in commercial transactions. conclusion that contradicts donald junior's deposition from last year. here is what comes next. donald trump junior denies knowledge of accounting principles that would be required for statements of financial condition. >> that's pretty much what i remember from accounting 101. >> have you told me everything you know about caap? >> basically. i'm sure i could come up with some creative stuff to kill time. i would beneath of us a favor in terms of educating ourselves. >> thank you. fair to say you have never been employed in a position that required you to apply gaap to your work? >> no, not that i'm aware of. >> wow. a little reminder as we go through don junior's testimony today. the judge ruled fraud happened. what's on trial now is how much the trumps owe for their fraudulent behavior. donald t

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