i would wager that sae, the national sae what have come down on these guys hard if president doran had not. guest: i want to make sure people understand that sigma alpha epsilon close that chapter at the university of oklahoma. independent of the president because of the accident -- because of the incident and they were not indicative of the organization. for trinity's and sororities had done a good job translating who they are, the largest value-based groups. the largest providers of community service hours and expertise on college campuses today. the second largest landlord of college students housing a quarter of a million students across the country. and therefore reducing the tax burden on public universities that otherwise have to build facilities for those students. they are highly regulated. the reason we know that regulation is working is precisely because, when there is a problem, those problems are getting addressed. maybe privately, or in this case, publicly but there is an extraordinary accountability. i want to compare and contrast what is happening with university of okl