senator dorgan, we want to start with you.ss after clubbing the republicans, beating 'em up pretty good the charm defense -- offensive, rather, with was -@maybe the last arrow in the quiver, but you think it might work. >> well, what i hope will work is that people talk about these issues, significant and serious issues the country faces, and describe conditions under which compromises can be reached. fact is, we need to solve these problems, and the lack of going back and forth and trying to find common ground has not been very beneficial. so i think what is going on now is fine. and, by the way, in order to solve these deficit problems, we have to do a little of everything. you need restraint, you need entitlement reform, fiscal restraint, spending restraint, and you also need some additional revenues. charles: and with all due respect, everyone says that. that's the answer that every single person on both sides of the aisle, for the most part, will say. and yet when it comes to cobbling some sort of a deal together, we don'