still with us, former senator dorgan and with me is ann, matthew and neera. democrats there and the way the trials works? do you have any advice how to try to do two things at once that way? >> well, in the last trial 20 years ago, we didn't have smartphones and as you know things have changed. we didn't have social media around so i think with social media and other devices they can be communicating still with the constituents in iowa and new hampshire but look. those four have to stay in the senate. that's their duty. they understand it. that's where they will be. snow biden on the other hand, i support joe, i should say. i think he'll do well but he will be able to be out there campaigning and we'll see how this affects the politics of it but they don't have a choice. impeachment trial is a big deal. >> thank you for being fort coming about who you support there. important for viewers to know. it does seem as if of the timing of the sanders/warren spat, feud, whatever we want to call it, coming when it is just when they have to be pulled off the trail that

let's bring in for their senator byron dorgan. great to see you as well. i just asked former senator trent lott what he thought of mitch mcconnell's performance and he said he thinks he's doing a good job. you clearly do not share that sentiment. >> byron: well, as you know, he said publicly he is not impartial, whatever that means, i guess. here's the circumstance, first of all, accommodations to trump flat and tom daschle, they were close, they worked together, they understood even though one was a republican and one was a democrat they wanted the senate to do the right things good for them. this new impeachment trial is vastly different than the impeachment trial 20 years ago. i will tell you how, 20 years ago, the impeachment trial was provided, all the documents of kenneth starr who spent 3.5 years, he got all the witnesses in front of a grand jury under oath, all the documents, he had everything that was compiled, including a 9-0 supreme court decision that forced the president to be under oath before a grand jury. that all existed, he laid that befo

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well the dorgan eyes are said they expect 25300000 people here and so when i see who is no more than 5 or 6000 who have been here so for them i can only assume it's got to be a huge disappointment now there's i sure that there is something for you here without a doubt there are people that i've spoken to who are having a good time but as you can hear there right now they're shouting live or tied liberty you know i'd be that's kind of a thin veil for the real political agenda of regime change that is what. i mean one why don't has never been he's never ran at a presidential election and there is a president of venezuela regardless of what anyone thinks of his politics now there's a lot of you know some people are talking in a peaceful resolution on the other side of the bridge one of those fellow lawmakers is saying more important than the humanitarian aid is ending what he called the dictatorship so there is there's a clear political agenda with the backing of the united states i'm going to show you some of the paraphernalia that i picked up here my finger is covering really bad word

many in our face the daunting task of rebuilding their homes and their livelihoods so miller alan dorgan reports from baton goes province . birth thank you your doesn't know where to begin he's been separated from his standard leases that they'll split steam and love and near his community 2 weeks ago. he's returned to the town of a good scene where he's gone fishing to get enough food to get him through the next few days going to be like but his house has been destroyed and he can't even get inside to retrieve whatever might be left of his belongings the only depressed when they saw my house all of our belongings are still in there my wife what on with me but i thought of her it's still dangerous i feel sorry for my family for a killer them. tory is a story that is repeated a 1000 times over here fisher men who no longer have homes they can return to they tell us the past few weeks have been difficult but the task of rebuilding is proving to be even more daunting. more than 100000 people have been displaced and many more affected across but then this province they were forcibly moved by

follow it live on c-span at c-span dorgan listen on the free c-span radio app. >> katie porter is an iowa native and campaigned with elizabeth warn. this is just over half an hour. ] >> thank you so much for having me here and everyone. i have had an amazing today's. left, a few people were saying i'm going to have a great weekend because i'm going to go to iowa. i was like suckers, because they are going to be so cold. this is my third time as a national cochair and i'm incredibly excited to be part of that includes everyone who wants to send our country in the right direction. when i was in middle school, i went to a tiny town, about 100 went to a middle school in iowa and i had a long wayride, 45 minutes each and one day i was in middle school and a bus was driving through athens and it has a tiny town square and the bus came to because there was an honest to god traffic jam in aston, iowa and the bus was stopped in kids started to get rowdy. , she shut the back and some smart alec shattered of course it is closed, it is 4:00 because remember back then, those were the hours. what

i think they're well balanced and well chosen. >> senator dorgan? the president these days. it's an equal branch of government and this president has done everything possible to obstruct. demanding that they cannot receive documents, cannot interview these witnesses. the fact is we know and both the president and also senator mcconnell they would demand these witnesses be allowed to testify if there was exculpatory evidence that helped the president but we need to figure out what's going on here with giuliani and mulvaney and -- we need to find out where all of this ended. because we need to know the rest of this story. not only for this trial but the american people deserve to know the rest of the story as they go to the polls in november. >> let me push you on this, senator dorgan, and then torricelli. isn't it possible to say everything you just said is right and okay and that there is -- there is the demand and the desire for the truth but that every president has the right to fight? that bill clinton did fight for the interview that he did that

follow it live on c-span at c-span dorgan listen on the free c-span radio app. >> katie porter

joining me is former republican senator byron dorgan of north dakota, and michael steele, msnbc legalst. senator, you were part of the impeachment trial, you know senator mcconnell. is it appropriate in your view for the majority leader to be advising the president this closely, especially when he is also a juror? >> craig, first of all, former democratic senator i should say. >> sorry about that. >> that's fine. look, mcconnell i think in many ways has been an enabler for donald trump. he is i'm sure advising him on certain things. i think he's also in a situation where mitch mcconnell wants to get to the senate floor with this trial and have a quick trial and acquittal for the president. the question should be what is a fair trial? i would hope that mitch mcconnell and the president would both allow information to be available and witnesses to be available so that there was a fair trial but i don't think that's going to happen. >> michael steele, this moment likely to test the relationship between these two gentlemen as the post notes, quote, the first test may come when the trial b

segment are each of the former democratic senators you just saw, max bacchus of montana, buy rin dorganro, richard brian, kent conrad and someone many remember as an outspoken critical democrat of bill clinton during the impeachment joe lieberman of connecticut. good evening to all of you. thanks for doing this. >> thank you. i want to say that nobody looks any different than they did 21 years ago. >> my lord. i thought democrats didn't lie. boy, that's pretty hash. >> harsh. >> only among friends. >> in good spirits. we want to get into this in depth. i propose beginning with a bite of bit of a lightning round to go through the esteemed panel here. starting with a question that is a one word to or one sentence answer to each of you. who do you think is the most vital witness, the most important witness in this ukraine scandal that the senate should hear from in the trial? let's go around the horn starting with senator bacchus. >> well, good to hear from john bolton. frankly, i don't know if we will hear from anybody. >> i would love to find out what's inside the mind of mr. giuliani. i

. >> senator dorgan, it's our understanding that chuck schumer got all the questions submitted to himtic side and mitch mcconnell on the republican side. if you want to follow-up, feel like getting another point, does it take two or three questions? how do you communicate that to schumer when you can't really talk? >> no senator is allowed to speak at this point. even though it's a question period, senators are not uttering anything audible. i think what is happening is senators on both sides are working together to try to submit questions they think will be instruckive. but, you know, all during this process the question will be what do you do at the end of it in terms of those who have information that has not yet been heard. let me say with respect to the chief justice, frankly i think he's going to try to stay out what he considers harm's way. i don't think he's going to want to involve himself in this trial to the extent it becomes a controversy. >> well, i -- i have to say, governor hutchinson you're saying this is going to be fantastic television today we're all going to watch,

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