terry: dorian jones is covering this story from the stumble. what can you tell us about the scope of this offensive? guest: the first objective of the turks has been successful with syrian rebels taking the town center and engaged in mopping up operations. islamic state did not put up any fight at all and decided to just cut and run. the key question is the second part of turkey's operation, to give up recent territorial gains they have made in the last few weeks. that is unclear. we had the u.s. vice president supporting demand that syrian kurds retreat, but we have had a strong statement warning the turks if they want to say -- if they want to stay, they will face the same date they have inflicted on islamic state. terry: there is a conflict between turkey and islamic state , but what about the conflict as a whole, sending ground troops is a big step. what could it mean for the broader conflict? guest: it does risk complicating things because turkey has the largest army in the region and they've made an step into the conflict. damascus has wa