joining me now is associate professor of affairs at columbia university, dorian warren.n, great to see you. >> nice to see you. >> this seems most notable for the door it opens and not the ruling itself. how did you read the comments? >> this was the second case where alito offered a critique. and what he did in this case with the other four conservative justices s is to put labor's he in the gill low teen but wait to drop the blade. they've been trying to weaponize the first amendment around this issue of public employees. there's all of this dicta about why it is wrong the public sector case and why it's -- if you extends the logic all the way through, it would be like saying i live in a blue state under president george bush and don't want to pay my taxes because i don't agree with his political ideology, therefore my first amendment should be -- i shouldn't have to pay taxes for the public good or benefit that the federal government provides. >> these are benefitting from the unions. tell us more how that whole system works. >> these workers, some of the lowest paid