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dorian warren political affairs at columbia university. assistant industry professor.orter who went out to atlantic city this week to cover the story for us and michael pollack who is managing director of spectrum gaming group. i actually want to start with you because, honestly, listening to the package that they did and thinking through this, i don't know maybe the first time i ever had an emotion about a casino. my initial reaction is to think, i don't care if casinos close because casinos aren't good things. make an argument for me. >> well, all right. there's a lot of points to be made. number one is that, obviously, on a very clinical economic sense, this is a question of supply coming down to demand decreases. supply goes down. but much more complicated than that. atlantic city is, in one sense, very much a victim of its own success. the first place in the united states outside nevada to use casino gambling to advance some public policy in urban development. and it demonstrated that casinos could be regulated effectively. and that was not the case in 1976. and i

governor perry and more, raoul reyes, attorney, and zachary roth for msnbc, also msnbc contributor dorian warrenniversity. welcome all. you know, does he have a point? he came out really strong there. said this is outrageous. we don't do this in our country. use an indictment for politic political -- for political revenge. i mean, does he have a point though given the county and the district and the district attorney, where this indictment is coming? >> he may have a point. i'm not an expert in texas law and the specifics of what they have charged with. so we'll let the process play out and i guess we'll know the answer to that. but i think it's worth focusing for a minute on the underlying issue that this arising out of. it's alleged that he vetoed funding for a public integrity agency that was looking into an agency that he had created, that was supposed to research cancer and in fact had become a kind of cesspool of corruption. so that's kind of the underlying issue and whether that's a felony charge or he's guilty of a crime it certainly is not something that you would think is good for his