we are back with ken burns and doris goodwin.en, i was looking at the attack at the capitol, at some point i asked questions of some of the people on my program the last couple of weeks, you know, is it the start of something or is it the end of something? i read a quote where you said "the attack of the capitol was neither a start nor an end, it is a moment where we decide how we want to proceed." it is interesting and important to look at it -- it is a choice. >> well, i think we tend to be over dramatic and throw out scenarios of too much hope or too little hope. democracy is really the action that happens between unreasonable hope and sthat moment at the capitol was so shocking to everybody that you had to stop and say what about me. where do i stand in relationship to this? that was a perfect thing. if you notice that we have been on a high alert and yesterday there was a photograph i saw from yesterday of one lone protester outside, i believe it was the state capitol in albany and it was all by himself with the maga trump f

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joining us now is presidential historian doris kearns goodwin, her latest book "leadership in turbulenttalk about turbulent times. doris, you have written about a lot, you've seen a lot. no one has seen anything like this. if you can, just reflect for a moment on the last 24 hours. >> oh, you know, one of the times you realize you're living in history is certainly this time. when i think about what people are going to write 100 years from now i think it will not only focus on january 6, but it will go back to november 7th when president trump refused to accept that the presidency had been called for biden. think about what we've been through for these two months. first there were a series of fabrications about the fact that he had not really lost the election, which millions of people believed which he kept spreading despite court decision after court decision, and then there was the absence of leadership during this period of time, 15 days of playing golf, the virus surging, 100,000 people dying. i mean, the idea that a president is not speaking about the central crisis that's placing

we're going to get the read from doris kearns goodwin. you know, the last president who refused to go to his successor's inauguration was andrew johnson. this president is not going to go to joe biden's. they don't like each other. what to make of then versus now. we're also going to be hearing a congresswoman who arrived to the capitol, had a strange and eerie feeling a couple of days ago about what could go down at the capitol. what was going through her mind. and ric grenell, the former acting national intelligence director, on what seems to be increasingly a jailbreak amongst, well, a growing number of trump officials and cabinet members. more with a that. but first, blake burman with a different kind of inauguration. i remember in 1869, blake, covering -- [laughter] president johnson not wanting to go to his successor's inauguration, and i thought, boy, i won't see this again for more than a century. now here we are. >> reporter: i was covering the one in 1969. i was wondering about the one in 1869. i'm just kidding. [laughter] but,

. >>> we're back with presidential historian doris goodwin. your thoughts with the eye of history on america right now? >> well, i'll tell you, ari, for me it was the most damaging moment to democracy i've ever witness in my switeven decades spent 50 years of my lifetime traveling back to eras so i lived in the great depression with capitalism and democracy at risk and early days of world war ii when it seems like wrest earn civilization might be destroyed and somehow the only thing that replicates this in my mind is after lincoln won the election in 186 0 the southern democrats did not accept that victory and decided they could secede from the union and lincoln said if they can do that and break up the union because they're minority and lost an election, democracy itself will prove impossible. the idea ordinary people can go govern themselves on a joke. that's the moment we witnessed yesterday and are still feeling the ramifications of today. >> yeah, i hear you. i think we have in the context offi ishistory this drawing of and i know you've

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richard goodwin, doris kern's goodwin's husband, who just recently passed away, was charged with puttinggether this list of campaign promises. kennedy needed to prepare to depart from the senate, and wanted to leave in a way that the seat would be open in a year and a half for either ted or bobby kennedy. he was involved in very complex negotiations with the governor of massachusetts, who is a democrat. this guy and kennedy hated each other. there was a lot of brinkmanship about just how the senate seat would be disposed of, and that was heavy on kennedy's mind. he was thinking about how to leave massachusetts, and ended up putting together at the last-minute this marvelous farewell address in massachusetts, which is dad thought was so good that it might steal from the kind of thunder of his inaugural address. of course, he needed to work on his inaugural. that's just some of the backdrop to the story. let me describe it in the sense of four or five acts. the first one would be election night, 1960. kennedy voted in boston, flew up to cape cod, spent probably one of the most difficult da

leadership by doris kearns goodwin which gets into the leadership style of four of our presidents, roosevelt, abraham lincoln and lyndon johnson, very interesting. then i'm also reading order by daniel salas. what books do you plan on reading in the future and why? >> well, i do plan to move towards more historical types of books on

. >> reporter: presidential historian doris kearns goodwin says even without ccustomary cr. >> it's almostued a call for resilience. >> the only thing we have to fear is fear itself. >> the most important thing he said was there had been an absence of national leadership. he was going to provide that leadership. it produced a change of mood in the community at large. >> reporter: do you think that joe biden is inaugurated at a time in some ways is similar? >> i think the crisis has many similarities. the crisis provides an opportunity for a leader to mobilize the resources of the nation. if the leader is up to it, if the citizens are up to it, that is when change can really happen. >> torch has pab passed to a new generations. >> reporter: the dawning of a new era was john f. kennedy's theme in 1961. more than two decades younger than his predecessor, he delivered a memorable invocation to public service. >> ask not what your country can do for you. ask what you can do for your country. >> there's no question that he tapped something that was already there. and it meant that young people f

. >> historian doris kearns goodwin says president wilson was concerned about anything that would hurt >> you talk about how the influenza was barely mentioned when you read about woodrow wilson as president. why is that? >> it's extraordinary that when you read about wilson's presidency, the way he handled the flu, and even the flu itself, is hardly mentioned. historians who have now studied the flu epidemic argue that he had two crises to face. the first was the flu, and the second was the war. and that the war went first. and so that anything that he would say about the problem of the flu and the soldiers getting it in great numbers in the barracks would hurt recruitment and hurt the war effort. >> wilson wanted nothing to distract from the war effort or in any way hurt morale. therefore, national public health leaders said things like, this is ordinary influenza by another name. or, you have nothing to fear if proper precautions are taken. >> so there was no motivation for the president back then to get america focused on fighting this flu? >> president woodrow wilson never mention

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joe biden becomes the 46th president and we talk to historians doris kearns goodwin and eddie about the working with him and with the new administration strengthening the partnership between our countries. >> what does a biden presidency mean for the world? we ask the uk's former ambassador to the u.s. and former foreign policy adviser to mccain's presidential campaign, cory shahka. >>> she's stepping up to bat as herself and that's a very strong message to girls and women everywhere. >> kamala harris and her

and to discuss the historical significance of this, let's bring in presidential historian doris kearns goodwin. and, doris, it is rare we get to see so many living presidents together at one time. >> and i think for the american people, there are some things so meaningful about that president's club, a very exclusive one, and you see them together working together, you know, gathering at this moment, you want the current president to look for their industries and maybe this is just a symbol today of the fact that he will be calling them. he will be meeting with them. i mean, they know things no one else knows. they know what it is like to make those decisions to have to send people into war and i think best presidents have called on their predecessors and that wasn't true in the last four years but hopefully it will be as we go forward right now. >> doris this is john dickerson. i want to ask you about another one of your favorite presidents, president johnson, who you knew personally and his skill in working with the senate, you know, the last president to have as much experience as joe biden

joining us now is presidential historian doris kearns-goodwin. as the president signs these 17 executive orders, he also said that he had gone in the desk and gotten the letter from the former president, donald trump. joe biden, ever gracious, said that it was a very generous letter, but that he would want to speak with the former president before he shared anything in it. he made the point of saying it was a very generous letter. what does that say about joe biden and the man that he is at this moment? >> yeah, it really does show a certain clashing and, as you say, graciousness. all these little traditions that were not followed this year matter. you know, they used to invite you to a tea so that the families could see the white house before they got there. the idea, of course, most importantly, that the former president would appear with the president-elect at the inauguration, to show that the election is over and, most importantly, conceding the election. but at least finally this letter has come through and maybe that signals some desire on

this is a really important step this ceremony today. >> doris kearns goodwin, thank you very much fort's go now to cbs' nancy cordes at the west front of the capitol where the president-elect and vice president-elect will be sworn in shortly and most of their family has arrived. nancy? >> that's right, norah. so now we're just waiting for the president-elect himself and the vice president-elect to show up once they do, they will both be sworn in followed of course by the inaugural address of president-elect biden, which we're told will not only allow him to lay out, you know, his guiding principles of his next four years of his presidency, but we're also we are told that he is going to extend a hand to trump supporters who he knows are bitterly disappointed about the outcome of this election. so we're told that he will speak to his own supporters and to president trump supporters as well. >> and let's just listen in now as the several more dignitaries are announced and entering the platform. it should be the vice president of the united states mike pence who is representing the trump

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leadership by doris kearns goodwin which gets into the leadership style of four of our presidents, roosevelt, abraham lincoln and lyndon johnson, very interesting. then i'm also reading order by daniel salas. what books do you plan on reading in the future and why? >> well, i do plan to move towards more historical types of books on leadership and political books. with historical perspectives. i don't have any titles in mind right now but i like to read nonfiction, and i think that is probably what i will stick with. >> how do you select the books that you will read? >> and a couple of ways. sometimes i get suggestions from friends. i used to be in a book club back in the day and i will get their selections and pick from that. then i will read the book review sections of the newspapers to see what is good and what is considered page turning, so i try to mix it up. >> do you share books with your colleagues and friends? >> absolutely. as a matter of fact, roy blunt a good friend of mine who is an avid reader i asked him the other day what he was reading and he mentioned the books, so i picked

>> i'm reading leadership by doris kearns goodwin which gets into the leadership styles of four of our presidents, the two roosevelt's , abraham lincoln and lyndon johnson and i'm also reading the order by daniel silva. >> what books are you planning on reading in the future and why? >> i tend to move towards more historical kind of books on leadership political books historical perspectives. i don't have any titles in mind but i like to read nonfiction and i think that's probably what i'll stick with . >> how do you select the books that you read? >> i do it in a couple of ways, sometimes i'll get suggestions from friends . i used to be in a book club in the day and i'll get their selections and pick from that and then i will just read the book review sections of the newspapers to see what's good and what's considered page turning so i try to mix it up. >> do you share books with your colleagues and friends? >> we share books, we share book ideas. roy blunt, a good friend of mine is an avid reader and i asked him the other day what he was reading and he mentioned the daniel silva book

>> i'm reading leadership by doris kearns goodwin whic