we will continue on our conversation under -- with doris meissner. spotlight ont magazines, we will talk about a recent piece talking about income inequality. first, a news update from c-span radio. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2014] [captioning performed by national captioning institute] >> international news. north korea launched two projectiles in its waters in an apparent continuation of auxiliary tests. -- launch was thought to be missiles. a protest against the chinese president becoming the beijing's first leader to visit the south before the north. angry over a u.s. south korean military drill. ambassador to the united nations to inform the secretary was general that the islamic extremist group isis has taken control of a former chemical weapons facility northwest of tag dad, where 2500 chemical water -- rockets were stored. iraq's ambassador said in a letter yesterday that terrorist 11up entered the site june and seized weapons and equipment that also contained sodium shells and artillery contaminated with mustard gas.

host: joining us now to continue our conversation is doris meissner. previously, among her many background experiences, she was the former commissioner of u.s. immigration service from 1993-2000. the president wants almost $4 billion to be put to issues

host: joining us now to continue our conversation is doris meissner. previously, among her many background experiences, she was the former commissioner of u.s. immigration service from 1993-2000. the president wants almost $4 billion to be put to issues along the border. what do you think about the dollar request? >> it is a large amount of money, but money that is needed in terms of the migration emergency taking place on the southwest border. it has most of the money in the request going for facilities to provide housing and shelter and care for these young people who have been crossing the border. i think the most important part that actually leads to a longer term solution and response to this beyond the immediate needs of caring for people is the request for a substantial increase in the number of immigration -- this request includes $64 million which would plus up the immigration judge capacity at the border significantly and that really is the beginning of the reasons age lot of these children are coming to the country. they're coming because we

patrol, more concentration of technology to places, there was this kind of poignant observation by doris meissner, head of the immigration and naturalization service in 1993. and she said looking at operation hold the line which is the operation in el paso that brought more agents and put them side by side by side on the borderline and then actually brought the walls and help pass so. the idea is that if we put this wall, this surveillance technology, no one will cross. that was then replicated in san diego, operation gatekeeper, replicated in arizona. that was then replicated in southern texas. we are looking at -- and they're is a reasoning behind this operation. one of the big reasons, with the north american free trade agreement that was passing we're going to have to file rearguard to at least have a short-term and medium-term surges of immigration in the united states, thus we need to put up these more strict gnats. and she was right. if you look at the post 1994, the post naphtha interdiction, little exodus coming from mexico averaging maybe close to of 500,000 people. one of the impact of