speak for the dr the other part of the dr remove of the doris norz not sure what impact the doris messengers have on the property. >> they're not the concern he was concerned about the privacy issue not the doris merry or the light effects. >> so there's not an issue i don't see a reason to take them out they add square footage and mr. butler if i let the architect i want to talk to the architect for the project sponsor. >> i'm happy to make a motion and go back to 6 feet but the doris messengers add square footage am i correct. >> that's exactly right we received a letter which indicated the doris messengers were of concern the privacy element that mr. butler representatives is specific in that document we were looking at things to change in the project to make the folks happy that's one of the things they were willing to compromise on we didn't get into how or why but they're willing to go without. >> in this case i'm going to make a motion to take dr set back the second floor 2.6 feet. >> 2.5. >> it looks like it's 2.6 here. >> well 2 and a half or 2 and a half 2.5 is the same as 2 and a

. >> the doris messengers are still part of the plan ape there's certain donor messengers they're talking about. >> in decision with the neighbors part of the compromises to have them not request dr to have them move the donor messengers as well as bring them back in reline the second floors that's part of the conversation throughout the 5 times we've met with them. >> you're okay the alignment. >> so absolutely. >> the is that you with the doris merry situation and yes. >> commissioner richards. >> help me understand here the distance between the ground floor i'm sorry the base of the addition how many feet. >> i have a picture if we could turn on the screen it might be in the packet as well i'm sorry that's small . >> you can zoom in. >> we can zoom in? okay. thank you so we're looking at the draw deck open the left-hand side of the skreeven and the section on the right we set a tape measure from deck to deck and approximateed that from the ground where they are deck is to the top of retaining wall where the folks were >> so an additional 10 or 11 feet from the building. >> correct. >>