dorner shooting himself once surrounded. and eric rudolph wanted for a string of bombings across the south on the run for five years hiding out in empty houses in the mountains of his native

you're drawn to food, water, clothing, and shelter. >> reporter: dorner managed to survive for days inhe mountains just outside of los angeles, but died from a self-inflicted gunshot to the head during a standoff. the alleged boston marathon bombers had the city on lockdown for days. but police tracked them down, eventually killing one brother. >> we have movement in the boat. >> reporter: and capturing the other suspect, just outside a 20-block police perimeter. police here promise they will stay after frein for as long as it takes. >> as i said in the past, we will get him. it is simply a matter of time. >> reporter: for "nightline," i'm linsey davis in blooming grove, pennsylvania. >>> up next, who is the real voice of mcdreamy? the answer might surprise you, as shonda rhimes reveals her tv secrets. stay with us. a new class of medt works differently to lower blood sugar? imagine, loving your numbers. introducing once-daily invokana®. it's the first of a new kind of prescription medicine that's used along with diet and exercise to lower blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes. in

dorner shooting himself once surrounded. and eric rudolph wanted for a string of bombings across the south on the run for five years hiding out in empty houses in the mountains of his native north carolina. police eventually capturing him in 2003 near the grocery store dumpster he had been using to feed himself. lundin says frein's chances of lasting that long are slim because pennsylvania's pocono mountains are more heavily populated. still, he says, the vacation homes could provide the ideal refuge. >> the roles that the homes in the area can play are they're transitory, they're vacation homes so they're locked and loaded with food, with gear, with fuel, probably with firearms, with ammunition. >> reporter: local residents say they can't imagine living under siege for much longer and want frein caught. now, the frein family home is about a mile from where i'm standing that way. police this morning reassuring residents they are determined to find him and bring him to justice. their focus on this area, a strong indication th

. >> like chris dorner did. >> very much like dorner. and i thought of dorner immediately when they talked about finding his abandoned vehicle. because that's what dorner did. and the authorities during that case were speculating that dorner had fled, he could be a long off, he could be in mexico. and all that time he was within a few hundred yards of the original where he abandoned. he is dangerous and could be right under the nose right there in the woods in pennsylvania. >> we'll continue to follow it. tom fuentes, we appreciate you being on. >>> just ahead tonight in this hour, new questions about whether the clinic where joan rivers suffered fatal complications should still be open. new details about who ordered the clinic to suspend all procedures. arenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. it's a non-nicotine pill. chantix reduced the urge for me to smoke. it actually caught me by surprise. some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while tak

that is exactly what dorner did.for a week it ended up he wase1 never more than axd few 100 yards away fr[ the place where heq abandoned hó vehicle. just like in that case, we don't know whether or not he planned this to the endth degree,e1 dide planz nobody would really be able to track him down right away. i doubt that xdscenario, it is clear he ambushed the officer, it was not a spontaneous act to kill him. but ilp thinke1 that probably h very close at hand somewhere in thatxd wooded area or as you ha said he may have invaded a home and could be holding a family hostage. could have killed a family and just stayed in the house for food and shelter. we don't know. >>> we should point out neighbors say he was in military gear. with thee1 photographs we had, was actually a cold war reenactor. i think he used to dress up at polish forces, or resistance forces, that is him there doing that. clearly somebody who spent a lot of time in the woods. if there are akv newÑi developmentsi]e1 in the stoppin this l?wy. >>> and al

. >> that is right, anderson, and you will recall two years ago the christopher dorner case, the lapdpolice that was killed. he abandoned his car in the mountainous wooded area in san bernardino county. and they thought this guy has fled the area. he could be within mexico in a day or two. and turns out when he is located weeks later he is located a few 100 yards in the particular -- you know, the san bernardino county sheriffs. the big fear you have in a case like this, is a person is going to need shelter, food, water and transportation, if he plans on getting out of the area. and the best way to do that is to do a home invasion. so the public that has residential homes in the area, the cabins or shack, they're vulnerable to him coming there and coming in their home and taking their vehicle. and the other statement, just that he has general hatred sounds like for everybody. and that makes him as dangerous to the public as he is to the police. >> also, chris, i imagine what one says they want to do, killing law enforcement and what they actually do is two different things. and mass m

chris dorner situation. he had a grudge against the lapd. but also ended up shooting police officers from riverside. right. generalized to other law enforcement in general. we don't know specifics if there is a certain law enforcement agency. this guy has a vendetta. he as a thirst for blood of any sort. animosity he is wanting to inflict against the world. needing to prove himself is likely here. the fact that he departed to the woods and that area. apparently. means that anybody in the vicinity need to be cautious. >> tom, from a law enforcement perspective, having some body who has experience in the wood. searching a wooded area, a whole different thing than what police normally do. searching a residential area. or operating in a residential environment. do they bring in -- specialists in the wood. how does that work? >> normally for that search. they would use helicopters with forward looking infrared. that would look down and be heat seeking for, you know, an animal, a person, moving around. unfortunately, with those -- types of equipme

dorner shooting himself once surrounded.nd eric rudolph on the run for five years, hiding out in empty houses in his native mountains of north carolina. police eventually capturing him in 2003 near the grocery store dumpster he had been feeding himself from. pennsylvania's poconos mountains are more occupied. >> the roles of the homes in the area can play is they are vacation homes so they are locked and loaded with food, with gear, with fuel, probably with firearms, with ammunition. >> reporter: local residents say they can't imagine leaving under siege for much longer. and want frein caught. police reassuring residents this morning they are determined to find frein and bring him to justice. their focus on this area, a strong indication they believe he's in those woods. lindsey janice, abc news, pennsylvania. >>> happening today, the issue of climate change is taking center stage worldwide with over 500,000 people expected to attend. people's climate marches. the bay area is taking part at oakland's lake merit park amphithe

. >> i think you are going to see similarities with what happened with the dorner case.might seshg lecircle around . but he may go to an area which is much more rural, there isn't a huge law enforcement presence. try to hole up in a place like that. unfortunately for him and fortunately for law enforcement, they will never stop looking for him. >> chris, we know 200 law enforcement officers are at this hour searching for him. generally, how do these cases end. when somebody has nothing to lose. and they know how to stay in the wilderness for some time. what generally happens? >> well, i, i agree with jim, that, he is going to -- what he is going to do is seek some place of refuge. because he can't go anywhere. i mentioned publicity. he has got to keep his head down. what i worry about he find a house. find some where to break into. and takes hostages. that is the biggest concern in a fugitive hunt look this t if we have got him pinned done to a certain area. he can't move around. he is almost left with no other alternative. >> do you thin thak they have h pinned to a cer

. >> there's no one in the nfl offices who's ever going to be dornerred to the point where they're going to have to say yeah, i got that video and i showed it to him. you know, this is exactly the kind of investigation where you can just deny, deny, deny and get through it. >> and i think that's what's going to continue to happen. the league has no vested interest in telling the truth right now. they have the americans on their side in terms offal unbelievable television ratings. ratings are higher than ever. so why would the league go out on a limb and tell the truth when it believes it can continue to get away with this and continue to make money. and roger goodell has the support of the 32 nfl owners because he's making them so much money. >> let's listen to what goodell said in his press conference about trying to obtain this video which, according to tonight's information, they already had. >> we asked for it on several occasions. according to our security department, we asked for it on several occasions over the spring all the way to can june. february through june. i'm confident t

. >> tom, it's reminding me so much of the case we saw in southern california with christopher dornere thing is that they didn't know how far this guy may have gotten. they didn't know if it was a one off and then we found out later that it wasn't. the community was really terrified because, again, you don't know at which point -- where could this person be on the run? again, you don't know if this person is watching television, has communication with the outside world where do you think they'll go from here? kids are going school on monday, i know they canceled some class this is week out of concern. >> i think they have to keep up the intensive search in that area and even if they search an area and clear it they have to go back later because he could circle back to an area that's been search and cleared by the police the police can't say we've been there, they have to go back and go back and go back and i think that just hoping that at some point that he surfaces to do the next things which probably going to be shoot more police officers or carjack somebody or take hostages. anythi

you have said in your thinking about this case, reminds you of chris attorney dorner, in the west coastined, highly deranged and capable of more violence, tell us. >> that's right, chris, and i think in the dorner case, he abandoned his vehicle in the san bernardino mountains and the authorities thought well maybe he's fled the state. he could be in mexico. because the search for him went on and on for several days. well it turns out he never really left the area. and my fear, and concerns raised at that time as this time, are that the subject may do a home invasion. he may go into somebody's house, and if it's unoccupied, just you know look for food and shelter in that location. or if it is occupied, take hostages. and you know, we don't know if he fled the area. if he was able to steal another car. or do a carjacking, you know originally after he shot the officers. or whether he is still there or still on foot in the woods. so he is, he is armed, dangerous and very good possibility in that area. >> and so there are two key components here. there are his capabilities and then there is

. >> very much like dorner, and i thought about him immediately when they found his abandoned vehicle did. the authorities are speculating he could be a long way off, could be in mexico. and within all that time he was within a few hundred yards of where he was originally abandoned. he is dangerous and could be right there under their nose in pennsylvania. >> we'll continue to follow it. tom fuentes, appreciate you being on. >>> and just ahead, new allegations on whether the clinic where joan rivers had her operation should be still opened. and the decision on who suspended the procedures. there was no question she was the one. she reminds you every day. but your erectile dysfunction-that could be a question of blood flow. cialis for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment is right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is also the only daily ed tablet approved to treat symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex