george's grandmother, so dorothy bush, the first president bush's mother. and the first president bush's mother said to her, so what do you do? you know, what's your story? and supposedly, laura bush was supposed to have responded, well, i read and i smoke. then there were questions how well did that go down with barbara bush? no one has ever said. i think it's probably fair to characterize it as, maybe -- maybe distant, maybe more cordial. certainly her -- barbara bush's relationship with her grandchildren is very warm. she sees them a lot, you know, still. yes, ma'am. >> i remember that when barbara bush first became first lady, some reporter asked her a question involving the name of eleanor roosevelt, you know, or you want to be like her, to which barbara bush replied something like, don't talk to me about eleanor roosevelt. my family -- and i've forgotten the rest of that. but i was kind of wondering what her family had against eleanor roosevelt, although i have my own opinions? .. >> if it was difficult for first lady bush to deal with her husband's f