. >> i think about dorothy hite. who was the woman who brought the men together when they were in total disrepair. dorothy hite and so many others, who were the backbone, as women in certainly the african-american community have been just that. we have a word, mama. it has two definitions. and it raised its ugly head, particularly when corporate america began to open doors to african-americans and there was a competition between the male and the female. mama had two connotations at that time. mama, the nurturing, loving person who took care of the family, who solved all the problems and what not, and the other, if i may say, hey, momma, the hot secretary woman. and where do those two things come together? we became divided over the essence of those two entities. i am concerned today that women are still not in the line of pushing, leadership, we're there, but we're being ignored. and that's why your program and others like yours are so important. z >> do we not take our place in leadership in the way we need to? is t