. >> reporter: dorothy johnson's fight with the group mothers in charge says it is not just the philadelphia problem, and while the offenders should be held accountable there is a larger problem. >> they too are victims. they are victims in these situations. they have grown up or have have lived, you know, in situations where violence is what they see. that is their frame of reference. that is their reality. >> reporter: sutton says that she hopes for other families something will soon change. she realizes the issue is a complicated one. a solution, perhaps, not easy. >> they need to stop the violence, you know, all of this, it is just too many babies being taken away from frustrates. >> reporter: officials of course say there isn't one solution but we did hear a lot today about conflict resolution. so essentially parents just making sure their children understand how to appropriately work through the the conflict and work through any anger issue they may have. reporting live, rahel solomon for cbs-3 "eyewitness news". >> we have to find a way, thank you. >>> delaware county constable is fac