blair to meet him, dorr deny received anything. if you want to check that you should call him. >> that was my question. a more subtle question. >> indeed it was. the sophisticated newspaper proprietor would not be hard-nosed commercial negotiation, how much to pay something. it would be a far higher and more subtle level, trying to work out how much to give and how much to press for. do you follow me? >> i don't. >> don't you? >> no. >> did you at least sense this sort of encounter with mr. blair or mr. brown, two most powerful people just before the general election that they were very anxious to sound you out and see what you're thinking was. >> they probably wanted to convince me that they were the right people and i am sure they mapped to every other present priority. >> you didn't feel they were sizing you up trying to work out what you were thinking and what was necessary from that perspective? they had to do to win your support? >> i don't think so. >> mr. campbell's entry for the tenth of march 1997, page 6 -- >> 664. >> le