dorr was very careful about keeping his cards close to his chest. >> yes. but listening to the tapes had an effect on him, didn't it? >> yes. yes, it confirmed -- we all believed that the president really acted improperly. there really was a misuse. it was wrong to break into the headquarters of your political opponents. it's wrong to wire tap. it's wrong to break into the headquarters of the psychiatrist. it's wrong, you know, and then to misuse the fbi, patrick gray, and misuse the cia, this is, you know, we all felt that. you know? and when you heard the tapes, it sort of put it all together for us and it did have an impact on dorr. whether we could, i mean, maybe dorr would have -- only he can speak for himself -- have reached the conclusion we should have asked for itch peoplement, if without tapes i don't know what conclusion you would have reached. i mean, i don't know what we'd have done. >> did he give you a sense of what he was thinking or did he not share it with you? how did it work? >> he -- what he said we

dorr play any role as a consultant at the time of the clinton impeach snmt? >> not to my -- i don't know. i wasn't around in the clinton impeachment. listen to me there would be no clinton impeachment. but i wasn't around. the answer is probably not. but i don't know for sure. >> did you know that bert marshall opposed article 3? >> no. i did not know that. he did? that's interesting. >> he and owen fist had a debate about it. owen did support it. >> that was important. see, he -- i was a strong supporter of article 3. and i did know that dorr reached out to other people such as fist and marshall. he didn't rely on my judgment holily. he looked to me for advice and -- but he was looking to other people as well. so if i argued strongly as i did for article 3 i knew he would go to other -- like he should. that's the right thing. just because i say there should be article 3 doesn't mean there smub article 3. it was part of my -- even article 3, he was part -- the reason i wanted article 3 is because we had to sit down to the president's -- the executive branch i

that's the way i felt and i think that's the way dorr felt also. once we got the tapes and by that time and talked to some of the people, yeah, we did conclude that impeachment was appropriate but it took a while to get there and it took jenner a while too. that's why the irony is if the tapes hadn't been there who knows what would have happened? >> when you put together the subpoenas did you -- were you hopeful -- were you hopeful or optimistic or just felt you had to do it but you didn't think the white house was going to give you anything? >> no, i -- well, i was one of the key people -- no person was totally in charge of anything other than dorr but i was one of the key figures in putting together the subpoenas, article 3 which i told you i was deeply involved in. we felt we had to do it and felt we were entitled to the material and knowing the way the white house was reacting we felt they would stonewall us because they wanted to turn this into a political process. this was a huge battle here. they wanted to say, this is a political fight and

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he was bams dorr to the u.n. >> he is funny. he is spontaneous. >> he was second representative to china before we had an embassy. then he came back and he was director of central intelligence. >> i remember when we first started the campaign for president in 1979 george had his speech he would give about the obligation and the promises and reward of public servants. he would say my father inculc e inculcated into me a sense of public service. hey george, don't say inculcated. people don't understand what that means. the average voter isn't going to get it. >> as vice president for 8 years and as president of the united states george bush's mission was to make sure everyone got it. >> my friends we have work to do. >> during the homeless lost and roaming, today more than ever we need community service. everyone has a gift to give. every one of us has a special talent. this is a genius of america ordinary americans doing extraordinary things. >> george bush has always lived life to the full with the restless energy that late in l

did it have any impact on john dorr. >> i wouldn't say specifically but...ot of venture capitalists road off of what was called consumer internet. so internet companies that sell something to consumers a lot of these between 2002 and 2007 would not touch those companies and that's when facebook started and twitter was started. >> rose: but twitter hasn't gone public. are you saying that, in fact, these companies are undervalued? their p.e. ratio is too low and if, in fact, they had an appropriate p.e. ratio their evaluation would be even more stratospheric? >> so... >> rose: sounds like it. >> you want to be careful... i want to careful when i second guess the market. the >> well you've spent this last ten minutes telling me the reason that the p.e. ratios are so low is because of an aftermath of the 2001 bubble. >> so one of two things is true, either i'm write about that in which case there will be a recovery. >> rose: so go buy google and apple all you can get. >> in this case they're huge bargains and we'll say it's just like the mid-70s for stocks. >> r

. >> dorr. okay. someone who used to try to teach principles of economics, economists are trying to look at the inefficiencies -- you can imagine all these different markets with a big increase in demand. how much did the attempt to control prices memo down this effort? >> i like the we put that. you are standing on heads. what they tried to impose on economic transactions was the issue about raw materials and price control. in the end what to many seemed like a good idea they remember during world war i that the onrush of demand for materials for war productions and prices skyrocketing, huge inflation in world war i. they were determined rather than live through that experience to restrain it in the process and also allocate materials as well. what didn't occur to them was happening under their noses had a paid any attention to it was what made the new materials available, critical materials, steel, copper, aluminum and magnesium wasn't allocation of resources and rationing out of them but increased