one of my favorite thinkers and writers and spiritual giants of our past and i believe reverend dorsey blake there for a celebration. can you remind me of what that was? >> he did an event in our shop on the spirituals. we sang, and he used some of dr. thurman's writings and he wore his robe. it was very special. >> thurman of course for those who are listening of course he was here and found the church for the fellowship of all people back in 1944. quite a unique church in the country. and he was here to -- well, he lived to about 89 years of age and i happened to go toes his his funeral. it was a four hour funeral and i enjoyed every moment. it had speakers and readers and scripture reading. it was a wonderful experience. >> we try to keep his books in stock. he's a wonderful resource. >> way ahead of his time. >> a lot of -- a lot of people reading some of the contemporary buddhist writings are seeing similarities with dr. thurman. >> that's right. common ground. we have one more segment with these wonderful people here. so please join us and go out and find sagrada on 49th and telegraph.