dorsey wright, using highly technical analysis. what is that one doing? joe: that is buying countries up momentum level. country rotation is buying things as it has had that strength and is looking for those companies to continue that strength, and eventually as it dissipates off it will sell off. we have been working with dorsey wright very long, and this is part of their methodology, using relative strength to deliver those types of returns over time. carolina: going back to dogs, i had a question about underlying liquidity. if we look at the fund's holdings, they are not super liquid. the fund is tracking at a 21% premium for a discount. how do you calm investors who may be concerned about their slippage eating in? scarlet: good question. joe: that's a common question that comes up a lot. we look carefully, when we built the universe around us, we thought a lot about making sure it was very liquid. so you work with your market makers, so when an investor comes in, you want to give them the ability to have access. the early stages for this fund, we were