for instance, with the nurses, with dorthea dix, i did not mention her name. there is so much you can mention in a lecture. florence nightingale's book was throughout america. women knew about it. dorthea dix who started a nursing corps during the time of the civil war for the army, she read florence nightingale. the women knew about florence nightingale. so the effect was there. she was important. it probably grew more and more as nursing grew larger. sir? >> question in the same vain. what, if any, influence did the teachings have on letterman and other members of the sanitary commission to your knowledge? >> that is an interesting. question. i don't have an answer. i am not sure that any of them knew about samuel weiss. it was later than that. the type of research that he was doing, which was ongoing in the '60s, they did not know anything about. so it had really minimal impact, virtually none. >> hi. >> hello. >> to dr. mitchell's quote, wasn't there a statue of samuel gross who wrote the field manual created in washington? and wasn't he the fellow who --