brinkley. i'm aware of that, i apologize for that. >> we both know doug, sorry, doug. >>> our conversation continuesa moment with david brinkley and others. the first vote in the senate to avoid a shutdown, minutes away. >>> john cornyn weighing in saying no deal. >> that's pretty definitive. the white house was pretty clear a few hours ago. i didn't think anything was going to get done. what will now be the question is whether anything can be salvaged, whether they can get something quickly done. how long this shutdown lasts. >> how does this work? assuming this vote happens at 10:00, there's no deal, what then in terms of trying to get a deal? >> one other piece of news that jonathan martin, maggie's colleague at the new york times reported doug jones of alabama is now a yes. you have four red state democrats come over. that is going to keep happening. normally everything is trump and we get that, this is one instance where republicans of the house passed this, there are republicans in the senate -- there's enough democrats and you can't get to 60 votes because of the democrats, i think that the b

jackson was president during the civil war he wouldn't have had one and he told me the same thing as doug brinkley. he wasn't going to put up with anything and a lot of that is what i told you about the background. number three, another leader was teddy roosevelt. they got pictures of teddy roosevelt during in the distance. when world war ii was about to start, they said listen, i have to walk it. he wanted to feel the boundary of the democratic party and understand where he channeled the leadership from and he wasn't kidding. absolutely true. when they take over he has a figurine of jackson on his desk that are similar to the same people even truman was a captain in world war i and he came from nowhere to everywhere and everyone thought he wasn't worthy and he ended up a great president. i want to do one of my standups in front of the statute of statf jackson in front of the white house. very respected historian with great personality and he's done a recent book and said you know why we are standing here this is where ronald reagan demanded his photo done for harpers or "time" magazine. he was in

doug brinkley, is that odd to you? >> well, leave it donald trump to boch martin luther king day.tche ses all of these events he has no real understanding of dr. king and doesn't read king's writings, he might remember bits and pieces from the i have a dream speech. to him it's a day off today. it's not a day of reflection on civil rights on the long battle for equal justice in the united states. so to me i wouldn't expect anything less of donald trump and worse yet, history is going to be talking about martin luther king weekend when we're dealing with that whole -- controversy in denouncing african countries and haiti and the like. it will will be morphed together showing an continued insensitivity to the plight of people that aren't white in the world. >> i mean -- >> i think it's not surprising -- >> i don't know what to say. >> it is upsetting. it's a president who now has a year on his record and much of that year has been about elevating rhetoric about racial politics, about immigration politics, which is the an to my knowledge tij sis of what march kin luther king fought f

doug brinkley is here with me. let's talk about what we just heard there.ident, according to the pool on the plane heading there, he doesn't expect the government to shut down. he's going to talk to legislators on both sides, prevent a shutdown and see a clean cr. the president in the past -- you heard him say democrats will be to blame. in the past, this is a man who said a shutdown could be good for me. >> that's right. first off, i thought president trump was smart to get to pennsylvania. you don't want a government shutdown and be holed up in the white house like you're in washington. great photo-op for him. second, brooke, he was there, setting up the blame game, meaning there very may well be a shutdown. who is the public going to blame democrats or senate and are congress, which are republican sne's covering himself, in a working class environment wirks is smart of him. >> countdown on the clock on the screen, making the point that it is tomorrow at 11:59:59. we go through this almost every year playing chicken. how often does it actually shut down?

presidential historian doug brinkley. >> reporter: if they are open handed about a medical ailment orness, the opposition will weaponize it. >> reporter: historically, some show mental illness sometime in their life. "i am the most miserable man living" and it's not just mental illness they'd rather keep quiet. in more modern times, john kennedy relied on painkillers and lyndon johnson was suspected of paranoia. richard nixon took valium. the perception it might be compelled each administration to keep such matters hidden. >> the constitution of the united states so help me god. >> reporter: it went nowhere, even as public awareness grew. >> you're not a private citizen. you're a citizen of the president of the united states and health matters are something that people have a right to know about. >> reporter: but politicos remain wary that even a rumor, like the one that democratic candidate michael due kkakis ha seen a psychiatrist -- >> by having his medal records made public. >> i'm not going to pick on an invalid. >> reporter: ronald reagan himself faced false speculation about hi

cnn historian and professor doug las brinkley. and charlotte author. the story about the first time female candidates, almost all democrats trying to now run for office partly as a response to the trump presidency. charlotte, first to you, i saw you were sharing pictures from the protests yesterday. you noticed out there on the march rout routes people holding up your magazine cover which must have been an unusual sight. what city was that in and what did it mean to you to see your story being held up like that? >> i mean that particular image that you just shared, that was from the bay area march. people were sending me photos from the upper west side, from dallas. i have to say i was covering the march yesterday and didn't see them myself. they were sent to me by other people. but it was interesting to see a story kind of resonate, and people hold up that image as a symbol of what's happening here. >> what's the most important takeaway from your cover story? we had women's marches one year ago this weekend, and now a second round this weekend. >> i t