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this time to then vice president george h w bush during his campaign for the presidency and then as president-elect during the transition. in 1999, "pr week" doug sheila one of the 50 most powerful women in public relations -- dubbed sheila. in 2001, she was named one of the most powerful women in washington by "washingtonian" magazine. she was not only nancy reagan's press secretary but a very dear friend. ladies and intimate, it is a pleasure to welcome -- ladies and gentlemen, it is my pleasure to welcome sheila tate this evening. [applause] ms. tate: lordy lordy, if i may quote someone. did bring my stacks because i'm getting a little older these days. book.ake: i have read the i thoroughly enjoyed it. i finished it on the flight back from washington, d.c., last weekend. it was fun. it was memorable. there were a lot of personal stories, a lot of things i remember. there was a lot of backstage, behind the scenes information that i have not known about, but all of it was centered towards public events, and i'm wondering if you can tell us first, how do you become a press secretary to the first lady of the united states? give us your first im

bush and karen mills former administrator of the small business administration under president obama. great to have your perspectives on this day. doug, the jobless claims, 3 million more people filing for benefits, the seven-week total now a staggering 33 million americans which comes out to one in five working americans as i said earlier. what's your take on these numbers and what it might mean for policymakers in washington? >> well, as stephanie said, this is not unexpected. we could see this coming and tomorrow's job report is going to show 21 million people lost their jobs in the month of april, and we don't know where they'll go. they could show up as unemployed, i'll have an unemployment rate over 17% or they may show up as having given up out of the labor force, labor force participation will plummet to about 54%. you know, we knew that, and we knew that it was important as a matter of policy to provide enormous amounts of liquidity to the economy to get it through the lockdown, but now comes the hard part, there has to be the opening where appropriate, there can be no letup on the public health mission which is the most imp