joining me in the studio is doug herbert. we are waiting for this press conference. this agreemement was very much s doing. the hardliner, giving britain no breaks, the context needs to be in there. emmanuel macron is someone who against leaving europe. he regrets the fact britain voted to leave. view of brexits as a case study of all the things that can go wrong when you have populism, false information, misinformation, innuendo, misrepresented facts hoisted on people. he thinks the referendum was faulty. let's put that aside. that is what emmanuel macron speaks about the process -- very sad they are leaving. referred to him as mr. europe. emmanuel macron is someone who is very pro-europe. he doesn't want this brexit debacle to pollute that process. it is not as if europe doesn't have other issues. it has a whole plate of issues. emmanuel macron is looking at the spectacle of brexit, he thinks theresa may has been incompetent in her management. he wants the brits to take responsibility. he has become -- so that the political failure will not cast efforts.s on europe