joining me now to discuss is democratic strategist doug thornal and james peterson, contributor. ey, karen. >> thank you, karen. >> doug, i know you and i both come from, you know, hard core politics looking at the numbers and obviously between now and november is a lifetime but it does, you know, give me pause to think that our folks are maybe getting a little bit too complacent when we see kind of a whackiness and assume that yes there's another government shutdown in february but that's not enough to win. >> well, i think first of all i would tell democrats it's not time to panic. i think we have actually a promising next six months in terms of a policy standpoint. i think democrats are going to be on the offense on unemployment insurance, minimum wage, comprehensive health care reform and we lost ground with problems with the obamacare website and also because we weren't on the offense on the affordable care act. i think dems are back on the offense and the enthusiasm gap is a crazy numbers in polls that don't always bare out until the end. >> sure we. >> had the enthusiasm ga