. >> yeah, i think, i think it was, i guess it was doug kass who printed in baron's a few weeks ago, equities and their lack of correlation to anything. i think we would agree. i'm in the credit markets. i'm a high yield guy. been a high yield bite for 28 years. the notion of equities telling us anything now i'm not sure it holds. it is a algorithm and program and i'm not sure anything more than that. tracy: the old-timers like myself schooled on fundamental analysis have thrown it out the window. i understand nothing. maybe the bond world is a little more predictable dare i say? although you say stay away from corporate bonds. >> what we're referencing, by the way i notice you do have an accounting degree. tracy: fellow dork. >> fellow nerd. but anyway, i think that the, issue is that when i talk about corporates i'm talking about high grade corporates. what i don't understand, have never understood as a high yield investor why you would lay money out today at 30, 50 basis points more than treasurys with no covenants, credit risk, liquidity risk, why? it is massive market. huge comm