doug mcgregor is a retired u.s. army colonel and one of the people we trust to give us real information. we're happy to have him on tonight. thanks for coming on. do you find it interesting that biden is saying ahead of time we have a moral obligation to do this because for some reason, but when we do it, it's going to make everything more expensive for you, mr. and mrs. america. >> well, president biden gave us a profound demonstration of his infinite ignorance of foreign affairs and especially russia. there are no grounds for hostility between us and russia. no grounds for conflict between us and russia. but if he's nevertheless managed to cultivate conflict and bad will. now, understand what's really happening today. half the population of russia was live or born during the time that ukraine was part of the soviet union. they tend to look at ukraine almost the same way we look at texas. in eastern ukraine the population is so thoroughly russian they have many relatives just on the other side of the border. but we

the minute we trust is retired colonel doug mcgregor.g tonight to make sense of all this. thanks so much for coming on. what you think is going to happen and what does it mean? >> well, first, tucker, let me just reiterate something. it like you and millions of americans, i really would prefer that the troops headed to eastern europe right now were headed to the mexican border. but i'm also very concerned that we find a way to avoid a conflict with russia. in the first thing we've to do is acknowledge that putin's basic point, not just his point, the russian government's point, which they've made for 25 years, is valid. they don't want u.s. forces and missiles and nato troops immediately across the border in eastern ukraine. absolutely. we didn't want them in cuba, he doesn't want them in eastern ukraine. we should acknowledge that. stop pretending it's a nonissue. it is a major issue for them. let's acknowledge it. and then let's get down to business and tell them fine, our concern at this point is we don't want you to proceed west towa

here is colonel doug mcgregor, thank you for joining us, why to you think that putin is doing this? his end game? >> well, vladimir putin is carrying through on something he has been warning us about at least for last 15 years. which is he will not tolerate u.s. forces or their missiles on his borders. and we ignored him, he acted. high would not allow ukraine under any circumstances to join nato, what is now happening battle in eastern ukraine is really almost over, all ukrainian troops there have been largely surrounded and cut off, you have a concentration down in the southeast of 30 to 40,000, if they don't -- surrender in next 48 hours it is over for them. they will annihilate them. ukraine beyont the river, behind it in east, not sure what he has planned there, whether he forms another republic and nexus it to russia. the territory west of ukraine is not, he knows that, and he is happy to live with that as a neutral state. trey: i am not a military expert. if he takes ukraine. and ukraine abuts poland, he has a nato country. will he keep going. >> i should say, he has no inter

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