ceo doug oberhelman was on "squawk box" this morning. >> i've seen cycles over my 39 years. this one is pretty acute in mining. the rest of the business is hanging in there. >> jim, he said it's been a tough year, he'll be glad to see it go, he's still bullish, long term on mining but he doesn't know if it's this year, next year, five years, ten years. not a great, reassuring message by observ by oberhelman this morning. >> a third of the job cuts have happened in the united states, their projection for revenue for 2014 is up 5%, maybe down 5%. doesn't look like next year is the term. >> no, it doesn't. and this seems to be a growing perhaps disillusionment with management at this point. you haven't mentioned the foray into china that jim has spoken with. jim, you're back with us. tale of two companies here. interesting we get boeing and caterpillar because you have made a point talking about both of this many going into different directions for some times. >> jim mcnerney, ceo of boeing, completely in the zone. this is a multi-year super cycle. he's already increasing the m